View Full Version : What should they do with the tag team titles?
Unknown
05-10-2004, 07:18 PM
Right now the tag titles have the most credibility they've had in a while. The Benoit/Edge vs. Evolution (Batista/Flair) mini feud did the titles wonders. They put the belts back in the spotlight and cut excellent promos on how much the titles mean to each of them. In a perfect world this would be enough right? Well we all know the world isn't perfect so this is nowhere near enough. Now is the time establish a couple of strong teams to form a tag division. If I were booking things, I would have a strong heel team (maybe La Resistance after the Regal/Eugene feud and a lot of character development other than hating Americans) take the belts off of Benoit and Edge with the stipulation being that they couldn't exercise the rematch clause in their contracts. Then I would have HHH or a recently turned HBK (a turn should occur) interfere in the matchup costing Edge and Benoit the match (Edge would be the one they'd attack) which could start a feud between Edge and either of the two. After a strong heel team has the belts, I'd have the WWE begin to build tag teams instead of the little passing the belt between makeshift teams thing. What do you guys think they should do with the Raw tag division?
WordLife
05-10-2004, 07:41 PM
I think they should just give it to La Resistance, they are the only good tag team left on Raw anyway. But maybe when Regal and Eugene start tag teaming together, they should put the straps on them. That would be entertaining as hell!
entertaining but not really a credible tag team, they need to give tag-teams a name and matching trunks and gimmicks, if they had done that with jindrak and cade they could have really been a dominant team
The Great One
05-11-2004, 08:59 AM
I don't know if this could work. But they could have one brand set for the tag titles. Because having them on both shows is causing problems due to the lack of tag teams. But putting them all on one show could help the problem and might have a chance to make the tag division a little better than it is now.
badbilly3d
05-17-2004, 06:43 PM
I don't think the tag team belts mean jack right now, especially with Edge and Benoit or Evolution holding them. I mean does anyone really feel that Edge and Benoit beating Evolution meant MORE because the titles were involved? I know its supposed to, but I don't see it. Once you are identified as being part of the main event, the World Title should be the object.
Until they go back to having a de facto tag team "division", like in 1999-2000, the belts are nothing but worthless trinkets for the main-event guys.
Superman33
05-17-2004, 07:19 PM
Raw doesnt have very many Tag Teams to begin with, which is probably why they gave them to Edge and Benoit. They need to create some new teams.
Orton Rko
05-17-2004, 07:45 PM
Since they dont have that many teams on Raw I think they should have one Tag Team title and the champs defend it on both shows.
Peoples King
05-17-2004, 09:32 PM
No doubt that the tag team division is in dire straights. But Raw has the talent needed to give the division a new lease of life. Right now the only REAL tag team is La Resistance and I suppose Rosey and the Hurricane. But what the WWE should be doing is starting to make links between superstars so that they can form a tag team.
Examples of Teams:
Rodeny Mack & Mark Henry
Do as I did in my Raw show. Mack and Henry are fit to return so right not bring them back as a tag team unit. Except of course they can actually have a gimmick. The gimmick would just be continueing where Teddy left off and say that the white man is trying to hold them down. As singles the two are limited but as a team they could be dominant and have credibility as an unstoppable force.
Dinsmore & Regal
This is going to happen, it is too obvious. So that is one team you could add to the tag team mix.
Steven Richards & Val Venis
Both guys are tremendous talents and could form a very strong tag team. All they need is a gimmick and maybe a ladies men thing could work wonders. Or they could readopt their Right to Censor like gimmick.
Al Snow & Tommy Dreamer
Give Raw an extreme tag team. Snow and Dreamer can be used on the active roster still and I think these two would be great togeather. It would be easy for the two to adopt simular personallities.
IMO that is enough tag teams to create a credible division.
Chazz
05-18-2004, 09:20 PM
I din't like that the WWE decided to break up Jindrak and Cade because they were starting to establish themselves as a cohesive tag team. Bad move in my opinion. Anyway, the tag division on both shows just flat out suck. Smackdown has the Dudley's, Basham Brothers, Rico and Haas, Gunn and Holly and the FBI. I'm not sold on Gunn and Holly, but I will give them a chance. Rico and Haas is entertaining now, but will it last? I think it can, but we'll see. SD has the teams to make a good tag team division.
I don't see how Benoit and Edge are giving the tag belts any credibility. I mean, sure Benoit is a double champion, but that has been done before. And Edge is just passing time until his monster push begins. Flair and Batista worked well with the belts and I would have kept them on the two of them. Rosey and Hurricane, Eugene and Regal, and Evolution form a nice core for a tag division. Guys like Jericho, Benoit, Edge and HHH don't need the belts.
The_Wolf
05-19-2004, 08:33 AM
yeah i think they should have just let the tag titles with batista and flair for a while until they started to develop some good tag teams. but at least it will give some low carders or new talent a go if they throw them into the tag scene
da nu rizos_619
05-23-2004, 04:08 AM
i really hope they get some decent tag teams soon...i'm really gettin bored as hell with the current 2 team tag division
Unknown
05-24-2004, 12:08 PM
La Resistance last night on Heat worked a very solid matchup against a couple of jobbers. I think Grenier and Conway fit better together than Dupree and Grenier do. Plus their new finisher is sick looking. I think that it's gotta be one of the best tag finishers there is today. They just need to give it a name maybe "La fin de la ligne" meaning the end of the line. I really don't have a problem with them bringing their flags to the ring and such as long as they don't make it their whole mission to defeat the American's. It shouldn't be like the old La Resistance which caused them to have a very low shelf life as a result. I could easily see the team getting over better now by just being ****y arrogant heels. Now that they have a sick looking finisher all they'd need are some more mid match tag moves and they'd be good. I would even say that they could be the top heel tag team on Raw if used right.
Another idea I have for a team would not only get an underused superstar more exposure but would also make an old gimmick even better. I'd have Val Venis come into Eric Bishoff's office but instead of being dressed in Val attire have him dressed professionally. He could then say that his career hasn't been the same since being fired as chief of staff. He could say that he and Bishoff had a good thing going and they used to reek havoc on the Raw roster. He could then ask for his job back saying that imagine how much stronger the Bishoff Administration would be with General Manager Bishoff, Chief of Staff Morley, and the Apprentice Johnny Nitro. Bishoff would then accept the proposal. This way, you could turn Val back into a heel where he seemed to shine, freshen up his character, make Bishoff look even more powerful as General Manager, and after awhile have Morley and Nitro tag together and just call the team the Bishoff Administration (that's a no brainer). This way you give Raw another new tag team to help the division succeed after Benoit and Edge drop the belts and you give two superstars more exposure. What do you guys think?
(Now all I gotta do is think of some ideas for face tag teams) :eek:
The Great One
05-24-2004, 01:14 PM
Another idea I have for a team would not only get an underused superstar more exposure but would also make an old gimmick even better. I'd have Val Venis come into Eric Bishoff's office but instead of being dressed in Val attire have him dressed professionally. He could then say that his career hasn't been the same since being fired as chief of staff. He could say that he and Bishoff had a good thing going and they used to reek havoc on the Raw roster. He could then ask for his job back saying that imagine how much stronger the Bishoff Administration would be with General Manager Bishoff, Chief of Staff Morley, and the Apprentice Johnny Nitro. Bishoff would then accept the proposal. This way, you could turn Val back into a heel where he seemed to shine, freshen up his character, make Bishoff look even more powerful as General Manager, and after awhile have Morley and Nitro tag together and just call the team the Bishoff Administration (that's a no brainer). This way you give Raw another new tag team to help the division succeed after Benoit and Edge drop the belts and you give two superstars more exposure. What do you guys think?
(Now all I gotta do is think of some ideas for face tag teams) :eek:
Awesome idea dude, they had something going for Morley when he was cheif of staff. I thought this gimmick is much better than the Pornstar gimmick that he has got now because it is just not working at the moment and is used to get bigger guys over, Kane defeating him last week which was a squash match. He should nto be used like that IMO, i would go with your idea because that was his best gimmick IMO.
Unknown
05-24-2004, 04:41 PM
Thanks. Glad you like it. Maybe I could try and pitch my idea to the WWE via their feedback section. I know they probably won't even read it but there is a slight chance that they would and actually use it. Yeah right like that'll happen :rolleyes:
Cody Longpre
05-24-2004, 04:55 PM
Benoit and Edge as tag champs suck! They are doing what they used to do. Team the bigger anmes and make them champ. Thent hey lose to a mid card team and go back to being the "best in the business". It makes no sense. but the tag division on Raw sucks, and it isn't that great on Smackdown! The WWE usually hires one member of a team, they should hire both and maybe can improve the tag team division they have now.
Unknown
05-24-2004, 06:44 PM
Yeah I agree that they should lose it to a midcard team. I posted that on the first page of the thread. Just so you know, I was agreeing with you not in any way taking a shot at you. They should lose the belts to a team but it should be built up for two weeks like the HBK/Benoit matchup (giving it some importance) and be the main event of that episode of Raw. I feel that they should have the two defend the titles against La Resistance. I'd have them come out and say that Edge and Benoit are a disgrace to the titles and they aren't even a tag team. They could then challenge the two to a matchup for the belts. Bishoff could then make the stipulation that they couldn't get a rematch if they lost their belts. The two end up winning the belts because of interference by Kane. This way Edge and Benoit maintain their credibility and an established team gets the belts.
Unknown
05-25-2004, 07:16 PM
The idea man is back at it again. I came up with a good idea for Rosey and Hurricane which would provide comic relief to an extent but isn't as unbelievable as the superhero gimmick. This gimmick would also allow the two to be taken more seriously when they want to be. I'd have the two become secret agents (like James Bond). They could walk around dressed in suits and shades. They could have segments backstage and use video packages to introduce the gimmick. It would even be another added touch to have them use the little thing that they use in Men in Black to make people forget things. They could hold it up infront of superstars and piss them off because all it would do is hurt their eyes because of the bright light. You could call them Agent Helms and Agent Roosevelt and have them come out to the music from the movie and video game (for n64) of Goldeneye. Hurricane's in ring attire would basically be the same but the green parts would be white, he would get rid of the mask, dye his hair jet black, and have Agent Helms written along both sides of his tights with agent Helms also being written in small print to replace the H on his shirt. Rosey could wear the same attire but his shirt would be a spandex material T-Shirt that said Agent Rosey in the middle and would have a picture of both on the back in their suits and shades. It would provide comic relief to the show but will be the kind of gimmick which would allow them to be taken seriously when need be. Their tag name could even be the Secret Agents. What do you think?
I think they would need a better name, Secret Agents kinda sucks but the gimmick would be cool to begin with. The problem is it might get stale real easy like the S.H.I.T. did.
Unknown
06-01-2004, 05:19 PM
Last night on Raw La Resistance won the tag team titles. This is a step in the right direction for repairing the division but where does the WWE go from here?
William Regal and Eugene vs. La Resistance
I feel that this feud could be easily picked up heading into Bad Blood. La Resistance from what I saw last night on Heat can work a solid matchup and have a sick looking finisher. I'd have them continue on the path of Regal having mixed feelings about working with Eugene and Bishoff still trying to get him to sabotage his career. Eric could then book a handicap matchup (he could poke fun at Eugene also) with Eugene facing La Resistance. He could then tell Regal lo let them destroy Eugene. La Resistance could then be beating on Eugene but Regal would end up saving the day for Eugene and helping him fight off La Resistance. This could set up a feud going into Bad Blood. It would give La Resistance more TV time to establish themselves as arrogant heels whose characters expand further than hating American's and it would give Regal and Eugene more time to work together and build towards making a tag team. This way, you'd give Raw a new face team and get a heel team over with something other than their nationalist beliefs (which would give them more of a shelf life).
I posted this a couple of weeks back in the PPV forum and it would be the most logical choice of what to do with the tag titles going into Bad Blood. The four men had a little feud going and if they did this they could easily explain a match at Bad Blood thereby getting Regal back in the ring, giving Raw another team, and getting the tag titles on the PPV. Other than that, I just think that Raw as Mister Mac Man said in the "Last Night's Raw 5/31" thread needs to build up their division. A feud with a strong face team will be the first step in the right direction but they have to build up a credible division so that the division doesn't get lost in the shuffle once again.
Chazz
06-01-2004, 06:18 PM
Here is the problem. First of all, other than La Resistance, name another tag team that really is a tag team on Raw. You can't. Flair and Batista worked only because they were part of Evolution. But in reality, they really weren't a tag team.
Today the WWE has very little to offer as far as "tag teams" go. There were wrestler's who built there careers in the tag ranks. Teams like The Road Warriors, The Dudley's, British Bulldogs, Freebirds, Rock-n-Roll Express, Midnight Express and The Anderson's all built there careers by achieving tag team glory. The present WWE roster offers only a hand full of established tag teams, which is why the belts really have very little meaning. And that is a shame.
I agree that with La Resistance winning last night that it was the right move. Now, for Raw's sake, they need to create and push some new teams to make the belts matter. Like I said earlier, I felt sending Jindrak to Smackdown was a mistake because he and Cade were becoming a pretty good tag team. Together they were going somewhere. Now, they are both having a hard time making it as singles wrestler's.
I honestly feel that the new wrestler's of today simply do not want to be in the tag team division. I mean, there is more glory and prestige as a singles competitor. We live in a society where we want everything now and we want it fast. That has obviously affected the wrestling business as well. I remember when a wrestler had to "pay his dues" in the old days. Now, the attitude has changed. Look at Brock. He never should have been pushed as hard and fast as he was. Now, he is gone because of burnout! At age 26! Hell, Benoit never even got a sniff at the title belt until way into his career, and it took him 18 years to win the heavyweight championship. My point here is that some of these guys need to spend some time in the tag ranks and develop themselves. There is nothing wrong with being in a good, quality tag team. Plus, it would help make the belts mean something once again.
Anyway, I hope I have made my point. I just feel that some guys are better suited for the tag ranks and it would help the tag division in the WWE.
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