Smoking

[The Pez]

Just wondering what everyone things about it.

This is not like the masterbation thread, so please don't bash me on that. I'm not try to say I'm better than everyone else because I don't smoke. In all honesty, I do smoke. Like I said, just wondering what is everyone's opinion on it.

[Qwaar-Jet]

Argh...not one of these.This WILL descend into a flame war at some point.

I don't smoke, I think it's disgusting, anti-social crap.And passive smoking is the reason I have Asthma.I have no respect for people that smoke.That doesn't mean I don't like some of them, it just means that I don't respect them.

I beg thee not to flame, but I fear it will happen anyway.

[SCOTT]

If people want to smoke let them smoke makes them no less of a person.

[Duff]

I smoke far too much and have done for nearly six years. If i'm totally honest with myself, i enjoy it and have no intention of giving up in the forseeable future. I do however agree with banning smoking in public places. I have the right to pollute my body in any way i wish, i try to be as cosiderate smoker as posible, but i am still increasing others' chances of developing a potentially fatal illness, which isn't entirely fair. Banning smoking in public places will alleviate passive smoking and reduce the number of cigarettes i smoke as well

[Funk]

Not anymore,do do the hemp everyonce in a while

[Qwaar-Jet]

If people want to smoke let them smoke makes them no less of a person.

In your opinion.

Good attitude to take Duff, at least your considerate, although I don't really think you enjoy it, your brain is just addicted to it, and that's a fact.

[SCOTT]

I wouldn't say its an opinion, pretty much fact just because people smoke it doesn't make people who don't smoke any better then what smokers are.

EDIT:If you don't want to respect smokers then thats fine all I'm saying is that your not better then what they are if you know what i mean. Kinda like no race is better then the other.

[The Stig]

I have been hanging around smokers my entire life, but I never once smoked a cigarette. I don't want to smoke. It's not for me and I'm happy with that decision. I don't want to get addicted to Nicotine and later in my life i will have trouble quitting. But people that smoke don't bother me. They are free to do what they want, and if they want to smoke, that's alright with me.

[The Great One]

I don't smoke, and don't intend on doing so. I don't want to waste my money on buying cigarettes that could affect my life later on in age. Smokers cough, i don't want to spend my old age years coughing none stop and not having a cure for it. I mean coughs hurt your chest as it is, but if it is a cold then its easy to cure with medacine, but the smokers cough is with you for the rest of your life. And it gives you pyshcologic problems when you do quit. I have heard when you stop smoking after a long time on the things, it plays some tricks on your brain type thing, like you pretend to light cigarette up, or you will be sitting there and then start acting weird because you think you dropped the fag end. I am blabbing on about nothing so i'll be quiet now!

[The Pez]

Road Warrior.....here's a warning. Right now you may think "I'm never going to smoke" and that's all well and good.....but thats what I thought too. I never thought I'd be smoking now.

[The Great One]

Yeah, i will have to make sure that i stay off them.

[The-Noodle]

i dont smoke, and dont intend 2. i hav no problem with other ppl smoking its up 2 them i guess. no1 else smokes in my family except my sister. im fine with that, just so long its not near me. its there body, let them do wat they want with it ... enough sed.

[Wrestlingmann]

Don't smoke. But im with funky have dipped in with the bud before, i know i shouldnt have.

[wwechick1982]

I smoked on occasion when I was bulimic, but other than that, I hate it. I do agree that it doesn't make someone else of a person for doing it!

~Rachel

[Duff]

Good attitude to take Duff, at least your considerate, although I don't really think you enjoy it, your brain is just addicted to it, and that's a fact.

Trust me QJ, this has nothing to do with physical or psychological cravings. I smoke because i want to smoke! Cravings and addiction are something i could overcome if i so wished, however i have no desire to doso at this stage. I have quit smoking before and could easily do it again if i wanted, but the fact of the matter is i don't want to. Anyway, i have more important, more immediate, things to worry about at the moment.

[AvaBundy]

Argh...not one of these.This WILL descend into a flame war at some point.

I don't smoke, I think it's disgusting, anti-social crap.And passive smoking is the reason I have Asthma.I have no respect for people that smoke.That doesn't mean I don't like some of them, it just means that I don't respect them.

I beg thee not to flame, but I fear it will happen anyway.


In your opinion.

Good attitude to take Duff, at least your considerate, although I don't really think you enjoy it, your brain is just addicted to it, and that's a fact.

Truthfully, I am not trying to flame you, it is just your the only one here that has said something that I can debate with (I am with DUFF :) )

First, smoking isn't Anti-Social crap, mainly because when you smoke alone, it just seems boring, so you end up smoking all you cigs with friends, and other people....and I have never met an anti-social smoker (well, we stay away from the people we don't like if you wanna call that anti-socail)

Secondly, 2nd hand smoke isn't the reason you have asthma, it is something in your genes or body that caused it, there is NO proff that 2nd hand smoking kill and there are goverment documents that say so!

And lastly, as Duff pointed out, most smokers could quit at any time...they just don't want to because it is an enjoyable task, it makes you feel good. Plus for me I would much rather smoke a cig than go out and beat the hell out of a guy cause I am angry ;)

AVA

[Qwaar-Jet]

Truthfully, I am not trying to flame you, it is just your the only one here that has said something that I can debate with (I am with DUFF :) )

First, smoking isn't Anti-Social crap, mainly because when you smoke alone, it just seems boring, so you end up smoking all you cigs with friends, and other people....and I have never met an anti-social smoker (well, we stay away from the people we don't like if you wanna call that anti-socail)

Secondly, 2nd hand smoke isn't the reason you have asthma, it is something in your genes or body that caused it, there is NO proff that 2nd hand smoking kill and there are goverment documents that say so!

And lastly, as Duff pointed out, most smokers could quit at any time...they just don't want to because it is an enjoyable task, it makes you feel good. Plus for me I would much rather smoke a cig than go out and beat the hell out of a guy cause I am angry ;)

AVA


No offense, but that is the biggest bunch of crap i've ever read.Second hands smoke kills.It's a scientific FACT.Here is one of the many pages that proves that, but also proved why I have asthma.

www.doh.gov.za/docs/pr/2001/pr0530.html

And if smokers can quit any time, why do so many of them struggle and go through hell to quit because they even admit they are addicted to it and can't stop.Are you suddenly special?

This thread basically proves that smokers can't really have an unbiased opinion on smoking.

[Weaf]

If you can't respect someone that smokes then I think you're a pretty small minded person Qwaar-Jet. I judge people on what they're like as a person not if they've got a nasty habit. I do in fact smoke, it's not something I'm proud of but it's mainly a pleasure thing. I'm certainly not a heavy smoker and if I REALLY wanted to I could give up. Don't get me wrong, of course it'd be hard but it could be done.

At the moment I smoke because I enjoy it, most of my friends smoke as well so that makes giving up a little harder. Oh and it's got nothing to do with peer pressure or wanting to be cool, we're all adults (I'm 23) and we all started before we met each other. If I had the choice I wish I hadn't started, it's a pleasurable thing to do but if I never started I wouldn't have known what I was missing.

[AvaBundy]

Firstly QJ, I am the most unbiast person you will ever talk to because I see both sides of a subject, and I saw no reason to prove your point for you.( understand)

Secondly, People can quit anytime and thats the truth. People who DON'T want to quit will blame that they are addicted, they just don't wanna quit thats all.

And yes....I AM SPECIAL :p

Thirdly, the site you showed me was....crap,it is all info that goes around lots of other info

Here is my proof that all the things in your site was more or less BULL****! From one of my favorite T.V. shows....Penn and Teller: Bull****

http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/topics.do?topic=shs

click the "Is second Hand Smoke Hazorsdus" there are 2 people that are on there that work with this stuff ALL the time.

Also listen to the brunette at the end

"It's not a birth right, it is an aquirred addicion that forms over time"---Now I know that a lot of people aren't from America, BUT I WAS BORN AMERICAN AND HAVE THE RIGHT TO SMOKE----god I hate stupid people like that!

If the link doesn't work, got to sho.com, then go down to late night, click on Penn and Teller: Bull****, then topics, second hand smoke, in Season one

Once again I am not flaming you. Your just the only person who i can talk about this with who takes the other side :)

[Qwaar-Jet]

It wouldn't let me on the site because i'm not from America...that's weird.



If you can't respect someone that smokes then I think you're a pretty small minded person Qwaar-Jet.

Meh, maybe I am, maybe i'm not but that's the way it is and i'll stick up for what I believe in.

Mind you, you make some good points Weaf, you actually admit that you can't just turn off your want to smoke, but I still feel i'm some strange world where people think they can give up whenever they want.I've seem so many people act like you, saying "Oh, I can give up whenever I want!" and when they try to they suffer withdrawal symptoms and realise they can't.

My Uncle was basically told "Give up or your going to die very soon" and he was so determined to give up, he actually managed too, but it took his toll on him mentally, and he wasn't the same for quite a while.So don't give me that crap that only people that don't want to give up blame it on addiction.Ever wondered why most smokers don't want to give up? Because they can't.It's a vicious circle that has been proven by fact to be the case.

Weaf, when you get to your age, smoking isn't really peer pressure, I agree but for people my age, it is.And when I see people at school around me smoking purely due to peer pressure, it really annoys me.And believe me, smoking CAN change people for the worse.I'm not saying it's a certainty, but it does happen and has has happened to people I know.

Now, I don't care if this constant flaming of smokers makes me unpopular here, because this is one of the few subjects that I will stick up for my side of things.So argue with me all you want.

This doesn't mean I don't like any of you guys, because some of you (Weaf, Duff etc.) are nice people that I enjoy talking to, it's just this subject where I turn into a nasty, flaming *******.So don't take it TOO seriously, but please still take it seriously.

[Funk]

Screw cigarettes. Actual tabacco is okay but cigarettes are chemical endosed crap. I would rather do my THC anyday (THC = Tetrahydrocarbon, the buzz in weed)

[Wilse]

Ok, I hate Smoke from Cigarettes, I haev Asthma so it really effects it, I hate the smell it leaves people with, I hate all the "Quit" adds that show you real organs and how they are effect by Smoking. I hate the smokers at our school cause they think they are so cool and they act like they own the place. I hate it how they seem to think that it's ok and no big deal when it's Illegal. I just really hate Smoking, I can't stand to be around someone who smokes, it just really makes me feel sick. And I don't understand why someone would put their body to the torture and health problems it makes.

Looking at some of the posts here, I get along with many of you, and understand it is your choice to smoke, I personally hate the stuff and could never do it though.

So yeah that's what I think....

[Peoples King]

Dont smoke and I have been going this long without smoking. Firstly I wouldnt do it because Im an athlete and it would screw up my fitness and in turn my general game. Secondly I dont want to take ten years off of my life by smoking. Thirdly I have seen the affects smoking can have on people. My grandfather was a heavy smoker and it completely destroyed his lungs. His body got so weak that he broke his leg falling out of bed and a few days later died. That was all down to smoking. I dont see any of you with Phd's so you cant tell me otherwise.

Now then for the war that has broken out on smoking in this thread. Most of my friends are smokers and so I have no problem with people smoking. Its their choice and their life so they can do what they want. BUT what makes me laugh is smokers saying that second hand smoke doesnt damage the health of others. Of course it bloody well does. You have to look at this as smoke inhalation during a fire. Sure there isnt as much smoke but it is the same principle. Ireland has recently intorduced a smoking ban in pubs, restaurants and other public places and places of work. IMO this was a great step on the art of the government. If a smoker doesnt respect the health of others around him then he is just an ignorant prick.

Onto the tobacoo industry. These ****ing scumbags are the worst drug dealers in the world. For years they knew what cigarettes were doing but they kept silent and encouraged ****ing kids to smoke. These guys are ****ing scumbags and I wouldnt mind meeting one of them in a dark alley sometime.

Next to the ****s that sue the tobacoo companies. Now I stated what I thought of the tobacoo companies BUT........ I am sick of seeing ****s sueing them because they once smoked and now they are dieing. Its your fault buddy so live with it but dont be so ****ing retarded as to sue the company. You smoked, you have to take the consequences.

Goodnight everybody!

[Weaf]

I think that the age limit for buying cigs should be 18, it wouldn't stop everyone from smoking but it would certainly make it harder for kids to get them. When you're growing up you've always got a mate who's a freak and looks four years older than everyone else, but if the age limit was 18 that wouldn't matter.

Second hand smoke does damage health but it's a moo point to me. Pollution from cars and factories is much worse, just look at LA. Smoking is banned there but you can't even see the Hollywood hills from some places because of the damn pollution.

[wwechick1982]

Smoking is a gross habit, but I'm not going to tell anyone that they can't! People die from lung cancer all the time, whether it be from smoking themselves or inhaling second hand smoke; it's a fact, everyone knows it and anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves. Some people say that smoking isn't bad, just to make themselves feel better, but everyone knows it! Ignorance of how bad smoking is needs to get their facts together.

~Rachel

[The Pez]

I know smoking is wrong.....but it's just something you can't help once you start. It's so addictive that it's brutal to stop.

Weaf - In Canada, the legal age is 19...so it makes it just that much harder.

[Qwaar-Jet]

Shua, I respect your honesty.

[The Tumbling T]

I don't smoke. I admit I tried it but it wasn't like I got addicted or anything. I just personally didn't like it. But I don't mind when other people are smoking around me. It's their choice and they are allowed to do what they want to their bodies. Thats why truth angers me. Yup.
And I thought the age for buying cigs was 18?

[Qwaar-Jet]

But I don't mind when other people are smoking around me. It's their choice and they are allowed to do what they want to their bodies. Thats why truth angers me.

But when they are smoking around you, tyey aren't just messing up their bodies, they are messing up yours too.

[Drunkacho]

A freshly lit cigarette does actually smell nice, but from then on it's downhill.

I don't like the idea of smoking, I've tried it before, wasn't my thing. End of that story. I find it to be a little unhygenic by my reckoning.
But I don't mind being around those that do smoke, the majority are quite considerate anyway and will ask if you mind them smoking before they light up.

[iamthatdamgood123]

Why would people want to smoke? It hurts their body, it costs thousands of dollars a year, it slowly kills you, it doesn't taste good. What does it do for you? I ask that. It makes you look cool? You enjoy the awful taste of it, and losing all that money? I hate when people smoke around me, I threw up once when someone did it near me. It is stupid as **** to smoke, and I see no reason to do it.

[Qwaar-Jet]

The reason you see no reason, is in fact because there is no reason.End of story.


A freshly lit cigarette does actually smell nice, but from then on it's downhill.

Your nose must function differently from mine then, because I find it physically sickening as soon as I smell it and makes me want to throw up, and for all the consideration most smokers have for non-smokers in my experience, I usually feel compelled to throw up on them, and give them a taste of their (rather revolting) medicine.

[Drunkacho]

Your nose must function differently from mine then

My apologies oh supreme commander! :whatevera

To me it smells nice, it doesn't smell like that for long though. It's only for a second or two, but it's just like a freshly struck match.

[Qwaar-Jet]

Well i'm just telling you the way it is for me.I don't like it's smell.I didn't mean anything else by it, I was simply stating my opinion.

[The Tumbling T]

Eh... I don't believe in the second hand smoke bull. I don't believe that being around people smoking is gonna hurt my body. But thats just my own opinion. I mean I'm probally gonna mess up my body worse than second-hand smoke will if it even does screw up your body. But o well everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[c75g]

Smoking is bad,But I smoke alot
I hate the ads

[AvaBundy]

Why would people want to smoke? It hurts their body, it costs thousands of dollars a year, it slowly kills you, it doesn't taste good. What does it do for you? I ask that. It makes you look cool? You enjoy the awful taste of it, and losing all that money? I hate when people smoke around me, I threw up once when someone did it near me. It is stupid as **** to smoke, and I see no reason to do it.

I smoke because I enjoy it, and it helps me calm down. Of course if you hate smoking then there is always the good old fashinoned (illegal might I add) ass kicking to someone who pisses you off.

AVA

[Wilse]

I hate smoking so much because:
1. My Great Grandfather Died of Lung Cancer caused from Smoking
2. Same with my great pop.
3. My favourite teacher is at hospital bleedin g non-stop because of smoking-related problems, she looks like she could die :(
4. Everyone around me smokes.
5. IF I get too much of it, such as passive smoking, I could die of an asthma attack....

[Drunkacho]

Well i'm just telling you the way it is for me.I don't like it's smell.I didn't mean anything else by it, I was simply stating my opinion.

I know, I was just messing about. :winkok:

[Qwaar-Jet]

Eh... I don't believe in the second hand smoke bull. I don't believe that being around people smoking is gonna hurt my body. But thats just my own opinion. I mean I'm probally gonna mess up my body worse than second-hand smoke will if it even does screw up your body. But o well everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Everyone is indeed entitled to their opinion, but second hand smoke damaging your body is not an opinion, it's a fact.If you can't accept it, then that's your problem.

[Funk]

WEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smoking is crap, it messes up your lungs not because of the nicotine, but cause of the poisions they put in the paper.

WEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Duff]

Funk, wise up, you idiot. Are you seriously telling me that you believe cigarettes have less toxins and chemicals than weed? Christ man, wake up and smell the rotting of lungs

[Weaf]

Hate to be pedantic but Cigarettes do have more toxins and chemicals in than weed, they're man made. I'm not saying weed isn't bad for you because it certainly is but cigarettes have more crap in them.

[Funk]

Exactly as Weaf said, Cigs are man made, and the tobacco isn't grade-a tobacco, it is rundown crap. And weed (not that is smoke it :D ) is very bad for you, the THC, but it isn't as bad as Cigs.

[The_Wolf]

i hate smoking, it burns your eyes. the smell always seems to stay on you especially your fingers and it kills you. plus it costs a fortune.

[Gravedigger]

Weaf -


I think that the age limit for buying cigs should be 18
You mean it's not 18 where you live?? I know it is here in North Carolina. Has been for as long as I can remember (which is at least the age of 13 or 14 and I'm 22 now)


but it would certainly make it harder for kids to get them.
I disagree. You have those 18-21 year olds who get paid nearly twice the amount of a normal pack to go and buy them for minors. It just increases the chances of them getting the cigarettes because they think they're sticking it to the man at that age by buying them. Same thing with beer.

Smoking and drinking are as much rebellion as they are peer pressure at that age.

As for my opinion on smoking, here it is:

I've never smoked. Nearly everyone on my family tree all the way up to my great-grandparents was a smoker at one point. Two relatives died and another one has had things removed and a bunch of other stuff due to it.

Like most parents, mine told me not to smoke but they didn't hammer it into me like some parents do. Mine always knew I was smart enough to make my own decisions and they were right.

When I was 16, I met this girl at work who was 20 years old. By 17, we were crazy about each other and everything like that. She was a smoker and a pothead but I didn't let that bother me. I just told her not to pressure me into smoking and we'd be fine. She smoked ALL the time but refused to ever smoke weed in front of me (not that I asked her to but she respected me enough to not do it in front of me, and rarely ever did it anyway). At one point she started pressuring me into it until I jumped up and basically told her off and said if she ever tried to pressure me again, that we were through. She never said another word about it again after that.

In school I used to always laugh at the guys who smoked because they would smoke and lean, etc. a certain way to make it seem as though they thought they were cool for smoking. I mean seriously, I used to laugh like crazy whenever they would do it. They would inhale the smoke and try and have this "high" look about them and act like they were sooooo cool and soooo calm.

Anyway, when I turned 18, a friend of mine was a smoker and pothead and he had talked me into it. The next night I was going to try both. I had applied for a job at a department store a couple of days earlier. The next day they called me and wanted me to come that afternoon for an interview. So I went and had told my friend I'd be there afterwards. Turns out they wanted me to take a drug test the next day before hiring me.

I took that as a sign that I shouldn't smoke.

Then about a few months ago, I was starting to get curious again because I had a big group of friends at the college and all but me and one other person DIDN'T smoke. I was about to try it one day when one of the guys asked me to hold his cigarette for a second. I did and later on I was scratching my nose and this weird smell was on my hand. I sniffed it again and realized it was from the cigarette. So I went and washed my hand thinking it would be gone. No such luck. Ten times of washing it after that and it was still there. Took most of the day for the smell to go away and drove me crazy. I told one of my friends the next day and he started laughing, saying yeah cigarettes do that. And that's yet another reason why I'll never smoke...the smell it leaves on a person.

I have one last thing to say about smoking: I hate it when women smoke. You could take the most perfect looking woman. She could have the best personality. Heck, she could basically be my soulmate and the second I saw her light a cigarette up, bam, she's ugly and not attractive in any way. There's only one girl I know who can smoke and still drive me crazy and I think this girl only does that to me because she's married and I know she's spoken for. But yeah, I don't care if a guy smokes or not, but if a girl smokes, I won't date her or anything. I think my girl from back when I was 17 was what caused that. It really makes girls look NASTY when they do it. If anyone thinks less of me because I said that, then oh well. If that makes me look bad, then oh well. But I will not date a girl that smokes. I tell that to every girl I meet and talk to for a while and they all go through me preaching to them (or begging...same difference :chuckles: ) to stop smoking.

AvaBundy -


and it helps me calm down.
Of course it calms you down because smoking is what gets you riled up or gives you the need to crave it in the first place. Smoking doesn't help you, it hinders you. It gives you extra needs from what you normally have in your everyday life.

And don't tell me it doesn't give you extra needs, because if it didn't it wouldn't be like eating, sleeping or using the bathroom. You get this need to do those things and eventually have to, only smoking of course isn't natural.

[Unknown]

I have one last thing to say about smoking: I hate it when women smoke. You could take the most perfect looking woman. She could have the best personality. Heck, she could basically be my soulmate and the second I saw her light a cigarette up, bam, she's ugly and not attractive in any way. There's only one girl I know who can smoke and still drive me crazy and I think this girl only does that to me because she's married and I know she's spoken for. But yeah, I don't care if a guy smokes or not, but if a girl smokes, I won't date her or anything. I think my girl from back when I was 17 was what caused that. It really makes girls look NASTY when they do it. If anyone thinks less of me because I said that, then oh well. If that makes me look bad, then oh well. But I will not date a girl that smokes. I tell that to every girl I meet and talk to for a while and they all go through me preaching to them (or begging...same difference :chuckles: ) to stop smoking.
I agree with you on that one. My cousin once told me about this girl he was talking to a while back. He said when he kissed her he spit right there in front of her. He said that it tastes disgusting (I believe him and will take his word for it as I don't wanna taste an ash tray in my mouth...Don't have to worry about that anyway as my girl's mouth is always minty fresh :D ) and that he never spoke to the girl again. It really does make a girl seem ugly.

Now here is my take on it. I don't smoke and I never will. I just see it as a waste of my time and money. I don't get what people see in it. You are basically being told that you will end up dying as a result of smoking. I'd rather die another way. I just don't get the point of smoking one bit. At the same time while I despise it I don't feel that people who do it are bad people or anything like that. I feel that people make their own choices and shouldn't be judged because they choose to smoke. I do feel strongly about not ever smoking and stay away from second hand smoke as it is almost as bad. In a perfect world there would be no cigarettes but the world isn't perfect so we all just gotta live with others choices, respect those choices, and not think any less of people because of their choices.

[The Pez]

Take it from someone who knows......don't do it!

Almost a month ago, my mom caught me smoking. That's right, she caught me! It was the worst day of my life.

Second..a buddy of mine, who's name is also Josh, said that if I didn't quit....bye bye friendship.

The last straw was this past Saturday. I had bought a pack of smokes (if you have read my Long Weekend post, then you'll understand why I bought them with no regrets) and I went back to my friend, Jeremy's, house....Josh was there. Sometime during the time we were there watch TV, I brought up the fact that I had bought a pack and I said that I completely regreted it (not exact words...but similar). So, I gave the pack to Josh and he flushed them.
I've only had one smoke since then but, yet again, I was under the influence of alcohol.

Seriously, and I know I'm speaking as a total hypocrite, don't start. It's the absolute worst mistake you will ever make!

[WordLife]

I have never tried it in my life, and never plan on it. It would **** up my athletic career and I don't want that to happen. Plus I don't want to get cancer from them either.

[Kandy]

I have tried smoking, just to see what it was like, but I really didn't see the point. I don't have a problem with people who do smoke though, as I feel it is there personal choice what they put into their bodies. As for me, I choose not to smoke.

[Sunshine]

you dont want to get addicted. Because everyone i know that smokes wants to quit, but they for some reason, cant! Only one of them were successfull on quiting. I used to do it. But then my girlfriend didnt let me anymore.

[R_A_V_E_N_kID_3_3]

i hate smoking, it burns your eyes. the smell always seems to stay on you especially your fingers and it kills you. plus it costs a fortune.


ROCK ON! :cool:

i dont want to smoke.... but shoot, like people have said before, you cant decide whether you will or not. plannings for losers