HBK's I lost my smile speech - Discussion

[Epitaph]

Well having started and finished Watching HBK From the vault. It got me thinking about HBK's Promo "I Lost My Smile" The Episode of RAW it came from was The Manhatten Centre !So when HBK Did this Promo he got MAJOR Heat from the NY Fans! If You listen Closely whilst he is doing his Promo you can Hear a chant of "Bull ****" And also "Shut The **** up" , So i've decided to Do a Transcript of the Promo and put the reasons for it below.



(Shawn comes out to a lukewarm reaction)

"Well it seems like we've done this before and this time unfortunately for me its much more serious than it was last time.. A doctor looked me in the face and said I may never be able to wrestle again. I was told that the other day, but of course its something I dont believe, but the fact is its something I have to deal with. Time has taken its toll on my body and...

(loud "WE WANT BRET" chants cause Shawn to lose his concentration. Vince helps out by putting Shawn over..."No champion has ever endured the schedule that you have etc etc")

"The one thing about me is that I cant do anything halfway, and I come here and I see the people chanting Brets name and Sids name and one things for sure- youre going to have all of that in the future and thats what I want for the WWF fans in spite of what people may think of me, what Ive always wanted is for the fans to have a good time and enjoy themselves. Ive always tried to provide it whether I was on the good side or the bad side.

But what was always important to me was the performance, each time they (the fans) put their hands in their pocket and paid to get a WWF ticket, they didnt regret it because they knew that if they could come and cheer me or boo me, whatever as long as they had a good time.
Over the last couple of months theres been a lot of talk of bad attitudes about this belt, and one thing thats not going to revolve around this belt now is me.

I dont know where Im at right now, I need to have everything checked, I might be beyond reconstructive knee surgery, but if I cant come back to the level Ive performed before, then i cant perform. I cant just go half ass,I have to romp and stomp, get tossed around, toss people around and have fun.

I took on the schedule I did because I felt that I had to, I wanted to enjoy being the WWF Champ, I wanted to ride limosines, do TV shows, sign autographs, and I got to do all that, and if I have nothing else, I have that to take with me.

At a time when toughness is a big deal in the WWF, all Ive got is a lot of sorrow, a lot of tears, and a lot of emotion. I dont have toughness for anybody so I guess....here you go, heres your belt

(hands WWF Title belt to Gorilla Monsoon)

and Im gonna go back home and see whats left for me, whether it be in this ring or out of this ring.

Over the last few months, Ive lost a lot of things and one of the things Ive lost is my smile, and I know it doesnt mean a lot to everyone else, but it means a lot to me and I have to go and fix myself and take care of myself and find my smile because somewhere along the lines I lost it and i dont care if its unpopular and people want to make fun of me because Im an emotional guy.

But this is all Ive ever wanted and over the last year Ive got to do it and whether you like me or you dont, I just want to say that last year has been the most wonderful year of my life, and if I never do it again, its gonna be okay. I got one year of my life to do it and I have you (Vince) to thank and im gonna go home now"

It should be noted that apart from a few female HBK fans, the crowd were mainly indifferent to his speech, with boos heard throughout, and Shawn was in tears for the majority of the speech.


In brief: Bret jobbed to Shawn at Mania 12 on the premise that HBK returned the job to Bret at Mania 13. However HBK decided he didn't want to job, so dreamed up a career threatening knee injury, and the losing my smile interview was to explain that he may have to "retire". Thing is ... Didnt shawn pop up after Wrestlemania ?

I Really would just like to see what People think on this to be honest. I Wasn't watching Wrestling at the time...But it does seem to have Importance for Wrestling History. So Lets have our very OWN Intelligent Discussion Posting comments on it etc. Technically if you think about it...It sort of is the start of things to come for Survivor Series 1997.

[james_aust]

I had no idea about this.. :S:S:S

[Epitaph]

Would you like to add to the discussion ? by giving you thoughts ? lol would make me really happy :)

[james_aust]

I would like to add to the discussion (if you were talking to me :P) but I must be honest and say I am not too sure how much of an unbiased discussion I could have in regards to this topic as I have much bias towards the one and only Shawn Micheals.. him being the only superstar I have looked up to and respected since watching the sport many many years until now..

I would love to know anything else on the subject though.. I had no idea about this topic.. is it on the Shawn Micheals "From The Vault" DvD?? Cause I didnt see it... please reply :)

[Roland]

Yeah he Pop up and he is still wrestling, I actually remember that episode, shawn sure wasn't a fan favorite in Canada mainly because of there second match, the main reason why Bret was so pissed. I actually have that Raw Magazine, that talks about the incident about Vince Screwing Bret and what happened. But if you meant he showed up and fought another match right after he retired, I'm really not sure.

[Madhatter1]

Well I see I'll catch heat against James because I'm bias towards Bret.

Bret at that point should have beat Shawn for his bait and switch ploy against him. In order to put the company over, Bret jobbed the WWF Title to Shawn and only asked Shawn to do the same in return but Shawn being the primadonna that he was couldn't do it. I would have killed him to have a great match and give the company credibility at a time when they needed it.

[Duff]

I would like to add to the discussion (if you were talking to me :P) but I must be honest and say I am not too sure how much of an unbiased discussion I could have in regards to this topic as I have much bias towards the one and only Shawn Micheals.. him being the only superstar I have looked up to and respected since watching the sport many many years until now..

I would love to know anything else on the subject though.. I had no idea about this topic.. is it on the Shawn Micheals "From The Vault" DvD?? Cause I didnt see it... please reply :)

If you cant add to an intelligent conversation, then why bother posting at all? Also, your question about whether its on the DVD is answered in the first 10 words of Quote the Rave's post. Do you actually read these things before you post?

I totally respect Shawn for all he has given to the industry. It's good to see him back working a full schedule. The speech above was,IMO, a genuine heartfelt appeal. In a time when WCW was offering huge salaries to top WWF superstars, HBK stayed loyalto the company that made him, which is more than i can say for Bret. I never seen this speech, when was it made? The fact that the people were indiffeent comapred to the receptions he gets now, show that absence truly does make the heart grow fonder.

[james_aust]

If you cant add to an intelligent conversation, then why bother posting at all? Also, your question about whether its on the DVD is answered in the first 10 words of Quote the Rave's post. Do you actually read these things before you post?

Why dont you have some respect?! I felt he was talking to me about the discussion as I was the last person to post - there is NO need to be rude.

And Mr Intelligent.. it does NOT say if the scene is in the actual DvD just that watching it made him think about it.. I watch "Raw" and think about a scene from weeks ago it does not mean it happened that night.

I dont know why there had to be disrespect - I have never done anything to you - why would you want to make enemies? This place isnt for fighting. :thumsdown

[Epitaph]

Why dont you have some respect?! I felt he was talking to me about the discussion as I was the last person to post - there is NO need to be rude.

And Mr Intelligent.. it does NOT say if the scene is in the actual DvD just that watching it made him think about it.. I watch "Raw" and think about a scene from weeks ago it does not mean it happened that night.

I dont know why there had to be disrespect - I have never done anything to you - why would you want to make enemies? This place isnt for fighting. :thumsdown

Or the lack of discussion. Anyway it's a extra on the DVD as im shure its a Easter Egg. There for it isnt on the main program. Hope that helps , but is it possible to get this back on topic ?

Thanks

[james_aust]

Thanks Raven.. glad you had the decency to be a good person instead of rude and unhelpful like someone we know *cough*duff*cough*.. I really dont know why anyone would want to cause fights.. I dont want that, not here.. I want wrestlepower to be the biggest wrestling site on the net and this to be the best forum!!

I may rent the Shawn Micheals DvD again & look for the egg... I would love to see it.. thanks for brining it up.. HBK is the best there was, best there is and the best there ever will be.. lol - let's see if this gets disputed :P

[Duff]

Why dont you have some respect?! I felt he was talking to me about the discussion as I was the last person to post - there is NO need to be rude.

And Mr Intelligent.. it does NOT say if the scene is in the actual DvD just that watching it made him think about it.. I watch "Raw" and think about a scene from weeks ago it does not mean it happened that night.

I dont know why there had to be disrespect - I have never done anything to you - why would you want to make enemies? This place isnt for fighting.

Let me start by stating that this post is totally out of character for me.

Me? Have some respect? Don't even start me son! Unless i'm very much mistaken Quote the Raven started this thread and the first reply was


I had no idea about this.. :S:S:S

Does the :S:S:Sstand for spam:spam:spam?

With regards not having directly mentioned the contents of the DVD, you would need to be a totlal ass or extremely stupid to have not picked up on the fact that the extract was on the DVD. Don't even bother to answer as to which you are, i think everyone already knows.

Actually, he was talking to you, he was aking you to post something worth reading rather than a one-line spam post that had nothing to do with the topic. Speaking of disrespect, i believe Raven asked for our own intelligent conversation on this topic, your first post showed a total lack of disrespect for that request

Again, i agree with Raven, if you do feel i am being harsh or disrespectful, the take it up in No Holds Barred or report my posts to the moderator of this forum.

[The Kid]

Well honestly I am biased towards Bret. I think that this was a great speech because he really faked genuine emotion. He made everyone think that he had a heart and soul inside of his body. When in reality him and the rest of the clique were all about holding down talent (especially Shane Douglas) there are more but he probably got it the worst. I'm glad that the fans saw through this facade and booed him. Then again pretty much everything ever on TV was a work so whatever.

[james_aust]

Duff, don't talk to me okay? You are an immature child who believes his opinion counts more then other people's because you are on the computer and people can't see you. Just get over yourself. I try to be nice to people and get disrespected and abused.

I dont spam - no-one had posted and I honestly had no idea about how HBK quit for that short period.

Let's just make things simple and don't talk to me. EVER. I will not waste my time with some 21 year old snot nosed punk who thinks he is better then the other people in the forum.

[Roland]

Well honestly I am biased towards Bret. I think that this was a great speech because he really faked genuine emotion. He made everyone think that he had a heart and soul inside of his body. When in reality him and the rest of the clique were all about holding down talent (especially Shane Douglas) there are more but he probably got it the worst. I'm glad that the fans saw through this facade and booed him. Then again pretty much everything ever on TV was a work so whatever.

Wow, I figure there was a reason why I didn't like DX or Shawn Michaels, I know why I didn't like Shawn because, I never like the fact that he beat Bret but DX now I have my reason, oh BTW, when you speak of the Clit, are you considering Scott Hall to, because I think Scott Hall would Job to anyone, and that was the same for X-Pac. Now can someone give me a reason why I can't stand X-Pac.

[The Kid]

Yea you're right, Hall wasn't too bad about jobbing to people but he got caught up in the Clique and gets screwed by association.

[Peoples King]

Here is my take on the 'Loosing My Smile' speach. As most of us know HBK didnt really have a serious knee injury. What most of us dont know is that he had a serious drug and alcohol problem at the time. Now the WWE have always had strong stance on athletes that abuse drugs and alcohol. Faarooq never got the Road Agent job because of it. So what I think Shawns injury was, was that he was being sent to rehab. We all know he was a prick but I actually think that Vince sent Shawn off to battle those demons. That is my take on it anyway.

[Epitaph]

Hmmmmm my take on this is Shawn is a Prick , A Talented one at that. Anyway my take is this. Bret Jobbed to HBK at Wrestlemania on the Promise that at Wrestlemania 13 in a HYPED up Main Event which could have topped Wrestlemania 12 , Shawn WOULD Job the Belt to Bret. But this is where it gets messy , some where along the way , HBK became Egotistical , Decided he was better than every one and refused to pretty much Job. So when Bret was comeing for HBKs belt and Shawn felt threatend, I Mean holding the belt for pretty much a year is something every one dreams of and Shawn didnt want his "Boy Hood Dream" to end so to speak , So still going out as a Credible guy and Over with the fans , He dreamed up this excuse , McMahon was probably in on it. And he Left the WWE.The thing is , On RF's Shoot there are so many Bull **** parts on it and you dont no what to believe. Which is a shame.