Carlito WTF?!? (Spoilers)

[Big Shot]

What in the blue hell is WWE thinkin, this guy it ruined just like Brock. How can they justify giving this SOB the title in his debut match. He wasn't even good. If they wanted to give him some heat they should've just done it the old fashon way, not just by doggin the bean and then beatin Cena I mean come on has WWE actually ran out of ideas to do with people. I might actually have to stop watchin Smackdown because of this travesty.

[legendaryken]

Winning the title on your debut? How cool is that?

I think that that was the point. Gets him instant big-time heat. Good move imo as long as his wrestling backs it up.

[Peoples King]

Well he is supposed to be talented enough. He grew up in the business so Carlito will more then likely have good idea of ring psychology etc. If this guy can back up his character with decent matches then the WWE may very well have made a great. Not too sure about the name though. After a while I can see them calling him Triple C.

[Big Shot]

I don't know to my recollection giving wrestlers a title before they have proven themselves usually ruins them. But yeah you never knew this time it might be different.

[Mac Daddy]

I think this was the perfect way of getting Carlito Carribbean Cool over.

Think about it, the U.S. title needed to be elsewhere. I understood and I support the WWE's decision and take the title off of Booker T and allow the guy to go on to bigger and better things. And then everyone knows John Cena's going off to do a movie, so they saw a opening and seized it.

I know its not the only possible way he could have gotten over, but its an effective way nonetheless.

[Peoples King]

The way SD! sit right now there arent a whole lot of top veteran guys that can go down a peg to help out the younger guys like Carlito. This is SD!'s one big weakness and it sticks out like a sore thumb. Rene Dupree, RVD and in many respects John Cena all spluttered to a halt because there was no one there to get them over. Angle, Eddie, Show arent in a position to go down and do that. Undertaker will never do it unless its for Main Event purposes. So alas the only way for a guy like Carlito to get over is to come out and win the US title on his debut. Who is there for him to beat?

Raw is chock full of guys that will always be over and can afford to help out the Randy Ortons and Shelton Benjamins of this world. SD! doesnt have that and it needs to be addressed.

[Mac Daddy]

Hopefully with Pat Patterson's dissenting view, it will be addressed.

[Peoples King]

God I love Pat Patterson. Personally I'd like to see good ol' Pat on TV more often. I loved his character and I think he could be a good heel manager. Pat we love you!

One problem is Pat is only dealing with Raw. I think it is widely recognised that Pat has about as good a head about wrestling as ne man can have. If Patterson were sent to look at Smackdown! then maybe talent wouldnt just disappear off the face of the planet. The next guy to do the disappearing act will be Billy Kiddman. Seriously, without any top talent to go over Kiddman can only go one way........ no where.

[TheMainMan25]

I think that it's good that Carlito won the belt. Like stated above, it gives him immediate heat.

I can think of another guy who won a very important match in his debut. His name was Rocky Maivia.

[Lover Nuts]

I don't see the problem with this guy. I like Carlito's gimmick and I think it's more original than your typical big man gimmick. I'm glad he won the belt, this way he can get heat.

Thanks, :beer:

[The Hurricane]

Thats why Smackdown sucks!

Smackdown better do something fast because its going down.

[The Great One]

Thats why Smackdown sucks!

Smackdown better do something fast because its going down.

I don't think it's going down.



Look at what there trying to do mostly. There trying to use the talent that they have because they don't have the stars that Raw have. So there making do with what they got, and trying to get the best out of them. The only big stars that can draw a crowd are Angle, Show, Guerrero, Booker, Cena, Taker. I think thats it. So there trying to create more big stars, and doing the best with what they got. If they had the stars that Raw had, would they be in the situation that you think there in?



Carlito winning the US title on his debut will be good for him. It will get him heat with the crowd because he beat a crowd favourite. This will give him something to fight for, making storylines a bit more interesting for him, with him having the target on his chest. It will be interesting, and exciting i'm sure to see where all this goes, and to how long he will hold the gold. His future looks bright if the creative were that confident on giving him the title on his debut. It is totally different with the womens title when they gave it to Gail on her debut, simply the womens means nothing, it never hardlies gets defended, so that means they don't care if it holds any credabilty. Where the US title holds more credabiltity and actually means something to Smackdown.

[Gravity]

Just remember, Christian won a title in his first match and I'd say he's doing pretty well for himself now. I personally believe this a good move and should work out well if WWE follows up on it.

[Peoples King]

Good point Clash. Christian won the Cruiserweight title when he debuted in the WWF. I say give Carlito time to settle in. I dont know why, but I have a good feeling about this one.

[Cripplerlock]

Just remember, Christian won a title in his first match and I'd say he's doing pretty well for himself now. I personally believe this a good move and should work out well if WWE follows up on it.

Well that is one of those stats that although true and makes a good point, is not going to mean much to the everyday WWE fan. Besides, Christian won the light-heavyweight belt, which unfortunately was never considered a major belt. Fans are different today than they were then and giving someone who is relatively unknown a belt in their debut match may not go over so well. Carlito his going to have to prove himself in the ring because I just don't see automatic acceptance from the fans. Now if Carlito is who some people think he his, that probably should not be a problem. Yes, Carlito could get some heat for this. The question is what kind. I guess we will find out on Smackdown this week.

[Taz]

i think Carlito Caribbean Cool made a great first impression against John Cena. While his music needs to be a little loud, his character was perfect. I understood everything he said and he played the part of the cool superstar to the letter. I don't think he's the next Razor Ramon, because right now he's a mix of "cool" and "uncool." He acts like a cool guy, from his challenge of the U.S. Title to his victory, but his wrestling attire and hair combined make for some funny jokes. Still, charisma gets you to better places than a cool outfit, and CCC has charisma to spare.Been unexpected was awesome and its also good to see a fresh face in the U.S title scene

[Mac Daddy]

****, Cripple L. Did you see the reaction Carlito got for interrupting Cena and then upsetting the Docta? That kind of overness is going to spread like windfire in both the IWC and in the arenas around the world (I've already noticed the Carlito sweep in the IWC).

Thanks to John Cena (though his wrestling is staler than week-old pizza, his gimmick is dried up, and he's off to shoot a crappy sounding movie, I got a lot of respect for Cena now), who gave him a MAJOR, MAMMOTH rub, Carlito Carribbean Cool's over. Its only a matter of him maintaining that heat by doing exactly what he did on SmackDown this past Thursday.

[Cripplerlock]

****, Cripple L. Did you see the reaction Carlito got for interrupting Cena and then upsetting the Docta? That kind of overness is going to spread like windfire in both the IWC and in the arenas around the world (I've already noticed the Carlito sweep in the IWC).

Thanks to John Cena (though his wrestling is staler than week-old pizza, his gimmick is dried up, and he's off to shoot a crappy sounding movie, I got a lot of respect for Cena now), who gave him a MAJOR, MAMMOTH rub, Carlito Carribbean Cool's over. Its only a matter of him maintaining that heat by doing exactly what he did on SmackDown this past Thursday.

Yeah I heard the reaction Carlito got for interrupting Cena and when he came out the second time that night. It wasn't anything special. Yeah it is obvious that at least his promos did help, but you can't just judge by that one reaction the guy is over. With all do respect this is not IWC. I figured Carlito had to come from somewhere. However, we all know that just because you were over in the Indys, overseas, or whereever does not mean you will be over in the WWE. It is a lot harder to maintain good heat than to get the intial heat. I am not saying he won't be able to keep the heat up, but I am not going to say a new wrestler is over from the reaction he gets the first night. Consistency is the key. Again, let me make this crystal clear, I am not blaming Carlito if something goes wrong. I truely think he has potential, but WWE has not always used potential wisely. Now I have not read the smackdown tapings yet, but I hope Carlito will be fueding with someone who can help get him over and keep him there.

[Mac Daddy]

Yeah I heard the reaction Carlito got for interrupting Cena and when he came out the second time that night. It wasn't anything special. Yeah it is obvious that at least his promos did help, but you can't just judge by that one reaction the guy is over. With all do respect this is not IWC. I figured Carlito had to come from somewhere. However, we all know that just because you were over in the Indys, overseas, or whereever does not mean you will be over in the WWE. It is a lot harder to maintain good heat than to get the intial heat. I am not saying he won't be able to keep the heat up, but I am not going to say a new wrestler is over from the reaction he gets the first night. Consistency is the key. Again, let me make this crystal clear, I am not blaming Carlito if something goes wrong. I truely think he has potential, but WWE has not always used potential wisely. Now I have not read the smackdown tapings yet, but I hope Carlito will be fueding with someone who can help get him over and keep him there.


Well what we have a difference of belief. I happen to believe because of the consistent, and STRONG reaction Carlito got THROUGHOUT the night, he will be over as soon as he comes out on SmackDown. I know you can't judge someone's overness from just one reaction, but I think it's fair to assume that everyone at these events are going to pick up on the great reaction Carlito got and the fact that he got in the face of and toppled one of, if not the, biggest faces on SD. I have no doubt that will carry over.