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Sunshine
09-07-2004, 03:44 AM
Event: WWE Monday Night RAW
Date: Monday, September 6th, 2004
Location: The Kay Yeager Coliseum Wichita Falls, TX
Results by Carl Walsh of PowerWrestling.com

RAW is live tonight from the The Kay Yeager Coliseum in Wichita Falls, TX.

Start of the Show:

As the cameras shine in the ring, Eric is in the ring with the steel cage surrounding him. Eric announces the match that we were all expecting. Eric says it will be the first and last steel cage in the career of Eugene. He says anyone who interferes with this match before, during, or after will be suspended indefinitely. The cage raises as Eric is standing over a cloak. He says that Edge suffered a groin injury that will place him out of action for 4-6 weeks meaning the 30 day title defense will expire and therefor Edge is STRIPPED of the IC Title. Christian hits the ring to talk with Easy E.

Christian tells Eric that all the fans in the arena tonight are going to be rioting in the streets if he does not do the right thing and take the IC title and give it to Captain charisma himself, Christian! This leads Y2J to the ring in style as he may have something to say about this! Jericho gets on the mic and says that Eric Bischoff needs to do things the right way and sign a match between Christian and Chris Jericho right here TONIGHT! Eric says he likes the idea, all except for the tonight part. Bischoff says it is going to be at the pay per view. Jericho says that he has fought Christian many times and has enjoyed every minute of it! But Y2J says this match needs a little something special. He says the fans are going to pick what kind of match it will be! Eric agrees and asks the crowd if they'd like to see Jericho and Y2J in a steel cage! The crowd kinda cheers but Christian says last time he was in a cage Jericho put him out of action for four months. Christian says how about a no count out match. The crowd laughs at him and boos. Christian says the people are actually saying boo yeah! Eric does not buy it. Jericho finally grabs the mic and lets us all know what the match is really going to be; a LADDER MATCH! Eric and the crowd agree and the match is set! Jericho says he has one more thing to do and he knocks Christian flat on his ass and he starts to pummel him. Jericho goes for the walls but Tyson comes out and pulls christian out of the ring.

Referee: Chad Patton
8 Man Tag
Benoit, Rhyno, Tajiri, and Regal vs. Batista, Flair, and La Resistance

Start of the match:

Benoit and Flair start the match with chops galore back and forth until Benoit hits a big back body drop followed by a chop to the chest that sends Flair in the flop. Tajiri and Grenier are tagged and action picks up. Tajiri goes for a sunset flip but Grenier sits down. Tajiri back bridges up though and kicks him in the back of the head! This leads to all 8 men joining the ring as a brawl insues as the WWE goes to commercial break!

When we come back Flair is chopping on Regal in the corner who turns it around into uppercuts of his own. Flair goes off the buckle and takes another back body drop. Regal tags Rhyno. Rhyno hammers on Flair and spears him in the corner followed by a clotheselines. Flair takes his 8th back body drop but Batista is given a blind tag. Batista and Rhyno go at it until Batista hits a sick spinebuster. He takes Batista to his teams corner to work on Rhyno.

Mid match notes:

The team of Batista, Flair, Conway, and Grenier work on Rhyno for quite some time with some excellent team work. Tags go back in forth as Rhyno suffers in the corner. Flair is tagged back in and Rhyno starts to fire back with right hands. Flair goes down but he hooks Rhyno's legs so he can't go anywhere. Conway is tagged and he works over Rhyno with some right hands. He covers Rhyno twice in the process but Rhyno kicks out. Flair is tagged back in and he drops a knee on the brow of Rhyno. Rhyno blocks a right hand and fights back until both men collide!

Rhyno tags Benoit who hits the ring loaded as he takes down both members of La Resistance with German suplexes and snap suplexes. He has Grenier in a triple but Batista messes it up. Batista swings at Benoit but Benoit ducks and hits a big air German.

End of the match:

This sparks all men to hit the ring at once! Tajiri side kicks Grenier in the head knocking him out. Regal gives Flair a running knee taking him out of the ring and Rhyno nails Batista with the gore! Benoit comes off the ropes and nails Conway with a forearm. He calls for the headbutt and hits it! Benoit slaps on the sharpshooter and Conway taps out!

Winners: Chris Benoit, Regal, Tajiri, and Rhyno

Orton speaks:

Todd is backstage with Randy Orton who talks up his match with HHH this Sunday. He says HHH had plans for him to lose to Benoit, but that did not happen. Then he though Randy would hand over the title, but he spit in his face instead. Then he says HHH tried to beat him to a bloody pul but instead, this happened. (clips are shown of the RKO last week) Orton says that after Unforgiven, the 3 biggest words on Raw won't be HHH, they will be RKO!

Lita is shown with the make up artist getting her hair done. Trish shows up and mocks Lita. She says it was clever how Lita inserted HBK into Kane's match but it's too bad she couldn't stop Kane from inserting into her. Lita tells her to keep bringing it because after the baby is born Trish will get hers! Nidia shows up and speaks Spanish. Trish says she does not understand German so she asks Nidia if she can speak a language she understand. Nidia knocks her hat off her head and spills a drink in her face!

Referee: Michael Chioda
Nidia vs. Trish Stratus

Start of the match:

The two lock up and Trish takes Nidia down with a wrist lock pulling the hair. Nidia goes off and works her in the corner with shoulders into the abs of Trish. nidia grabs Trish by the hair and tosses her to the mat! Nidia has Trish down but Trish kicks her in the ribs. Nidia follows up with a clothesline but trish hooks Nidia to the outside.

Trish takes control in the ring as she tries to chat to get a pin but Nidia kicks out. Nidia takes a kick to the chest and Trish goes for the bulldog but Nidia rolls her up for two. Nidia then hits a big clothesline followed by a Northern lights suplex for a two count.

Mid match notes:

Nidia throws Trish in the corner and climbs for the 10 punch. Nidia gets to about three or four until Trish rips part of her shirt off! With Nidia in the ring nearly topless, she goes to the referee and he is trying to fix it.

End of match:

As Nidia is trying to fix herself up, Trish comes behind and kicks her in the back of the head with a knockout kick. Trish covers Nidia for the pin.

Winner: Trish Stratus

Eric Bischoff and HHH are in the back and both are happy that Eugene will be over tonight according to HHH. Bischoff says he has a party lined up. HHH says that there will be no party as Eugene is just a preview of Randy Orton. When he wins the title, then they can celebrate.

Referee: Jack Doan
Steel Cage Match
HHH vs. Eugene

Start of the match:

HHH atatcks Eugene from the start as Eugene is scared of the cage. HHH rams Eugene into the cage. Eugene is looking around trying to escape. Eugene goes crazy with rights and lefts onto HHH. Eugene nails HHH with a clothesline and an inverted atomic drop. HHH goes down as Eugene is in control. Eugene tries to leave via the door but HHH grabs him back in the ring. HHH hits him and closes the door. He goes to bang Eugene's head off the cage but Eugene reverses and smashes the back of HHH's head numerous times off the cage. Eugene tries to climb out but HHH hits his feet and Eugene falls on the turnbuckle. HHH beats his head off the cage until he is busted open badly.

HHH is in control with right hands right into the bloody head of Eugene. HHH does the good old head grate against the cage as the blood pours from Eugene. Eugene however does get a shot to HHH's injured ribs. Eugene throws all he has at the ribs of HHH but HHH reverses into a sleeper but Eugene runs him right into the steel cage! Both men are down!

Mid match notes:

Eugene crals for the door but HHH grabs him by the feet. Eugene kicks him off but HHH gets back quickly to stop him. HHH goes buck wild on Eugene as he rams him into the cage at least 5 times. HHH hits the pedigree and goes to leave but he closes the door instead.

End of the match:

Eugene is bloodied very badly as HHH climbs back in the ring. HHH climbs the top rope with the nearly dead Eugene and puts his knee on Eugene's elbow and drives it into the mat! Eugene is SCREAMING in pain as HHH leaves the ring to win the match.

Winner: HHH

After the match:

HHH comes back as Eugene is near the door. He shoves the medic away and slams the door on Eugene's shoulder to further injure it. HHH walks off showing people that Eugene is finished.

Coach is with Edge:

The Coach is with Edge and he asks Edge how he feels about being stripped of the title. Edge says he'd rather lose and get injured in the ring than be stipped of his title. He says he could have made it back in time but now they will never know because Bischoff is too busy with his just for men hair gel and dentures so he can pucker up and kiss Evolution's ASS!

Kane and Lita are backstage and Lita tries to give Kane some lip. Kane says he is not angry about the signing of the HBK match because they are a team now. And since they are a team, this means Lita is just as respondsible as Kane for what happens to HBK this Sunday! We see clips of what Kane did to HBK about a month ago.

Referee: Michael Chioda
Tyson Tomko vs. Chris Jericho

Start of the match:

Tyson and Jericho collide early. Y2J gets the advantage early with a drop toe hold followed by his knee to the back. Tyson fires back with a huge knockdown but Jericho gains control moments later as he puts on the Walls to no avail.

Christian leaves the ring and comes back with a ladder! Jericho is distracted and Tyson gets a big boot to the face of Jericho for a two count.

Mid match notes:

Tyson wonders how to get Jericho to stay down but Jericho responds with a jumping enzeguiri kick to the head. Jericho goes to cover Tyson but Christian distracts the referee so there is no count. Jericho runs over to Christian and knocks him off the apron.

End of match:

Jericho turns around after knocking Christian off the apron but Tyson gets a kick to his ribs followed by a torture rack type hold into a spinning neckbreaker! Tyson covers Jericho and gets the victory!

Winner: Tyson Tomko

After the match:

Tyson Tomko held Jericho while Christian grabbed the ladder and climbed in the ring. Christian used the ladder to give Jericho a shot to the gut followed by a shot to the head. Christian screamed "you want a ladder match???" as Jericho was down and hurting.

Diva Search Competition:

Stacy is in the ring as she shows us a suitcase with a quarter of a million dollars. What will they do for the money? Let's find out!

Stacy introduces the ladies and says that before we have an elimination we are going to see what these Divas got. We are having a arm wrestling tournament! The winner gets to dump a whole thing of Texas chili on the other 3 girls!

First is Amy versus Christy, Christy beats her easily. the second match is Carmella vs. Joy. Carmella wins. The finals is Chrisy vs. Carmella and Christy wins! She dumps Chili on the girls one at a time, pretty funny stuff indeed.

We have an elimination next and Stacy lets us know that Amy has been eliminated by the WWE fans. Voting starts now for next week as only 3 remain. Joy, Christy, or Carmella, who will win?

Mr. Benjamin is coming back... so says the video package.

Match #5: Randy Orton vs Kane (w/ Lita)

Orton's music sounds a bit better than last week, but I still hate the lyrics. Kane backs Orton in the corner, so Orton shoves him in the face. Kane charges, but Orton ducks a clothesline and unloads rights. Kane reverses a whip into the corner, but Orton dodges a charge and slaps Kane in the back of the head. Kane charges him, so Orton runs away and bails, then goes back into the ring. Kane follows right into a dropkick. Orton gives the ****y pose in the middle of the ring. Lita chant?! Kane tosses Orton itno the corner, but Orton blocks a charge with a kick and hits a European uppercut. Orton gets rossface rightsfrom the second rope with Kane in the corner. Orton runs the ropes, but Kane backdrops him to the apron. Kane charges right into a poke to the eye, and Orton goes up wtih the froggy cross body. NO SALE, and Kane boots Orton and heads out. Kane grabs a chair. Lita tries to convince him otherwise, but he ignores her. Kane walks right into a low blow from Orton... DQ?!

Winner: Kane via disqualification (2:40)

HHH hits the ring and motions for the cage. Eric Bischoff follows and says that this match will continue as a steel cage match! And down... comes... the cage. It continues - next!

Match #6: Randy Orton vs Kane (w/ Lita)
Steel Cage Match

JIP, so forget the match time. HHH is outside the ring, and Kane uses Snake Eyes into the cage on Orton. Kane throws an elbow at Orton in the corner, then gets more shots. Whip into the opposite corner by Kane, and he hits a corner clothesline. Kane rakes Orton's face on the cage as HHH trashtalks him. Big kneelift to the head from Kane, and he goes to mounted punches. Kane gets a right, but Orton fights back with rights of his own. Kane reverses a whip and hits a big powerslam. Kane covers for 2. Kane kicks Orton in the back of the head. Kane steps on Orton's head. Kane goes to a chinlock as HHH coaches him. "Come on, Kane! Break his neck!" Orton gets to his feet and elbows out and runs the ropes, but Kane clotheslines him and Orton gives an awesome selljob. Kane covers, but only gets 2. Kane goes back to the kicks to the head. Kane tosses Orton headfirst into the cage again and HHH continues taunting Orton. Kane whips Orton, but Orton uses a kick, a European uppercut, and a series of rights. Eight rights total, another kick, another European uppercut and he runs the ropes, but Kane halts the momentum with a sidewalk slam. Kane heads up top, but Orton shakes the ropes and crotches Kane, making him straddle the top rope. Orton dropkicks Kane down off the top rope. Orton gets some forearms to the back. Orton hits the 3.0! Orton starts climbing... and KANE SITS UP. Kane grabs Orton's tights by one hand and yanks him down, driving his head into the mat. But Orton uses the chair that was in the ring, and waffles Kane with it as he sets up for the chokeslam! RKO! The door is open, so HHH whacks the ref... but Orton slams the door into HHH's face and leaves the cage with the win!

Winner: Randy Orton via cage escape

Post-match, Ric Flair and Batista hit the ring, and it's 3-on-1 assault time for Orton. They put Orton back in the ring... but Orton gets the chair and fends off Evolution... but KANE SITS UP. So Orton throws the chair at HHH and tries to climb out. HHH tries to stop him, but Orton gets out! JR puts over Orton outsmarting HHH again.

And we're out.

Y2J World Champ
09-07-2004, 04:59 AM
Raw didn't really interest me that much, but I did enjoy seeing Kane and Orton wrestling each other in a cage match, I believe this is the first time that there have been two cage matches on the same night on Raw before. Well here's my review...

The show started off with Bischoff in the ring with the steel cage surrounding him. He made a pretty big announcement in this promo, he announced that because Edge will be out of action 4-6 weeks that he will have to strip Edge of the IC Title because the 30 day title defense will expire. This lead to Christian coming out, it was great seeing him back on Raw. When Bischoff announced that Edge and Christian would face each other again at Unforgiven in a steel cage match, I was happy but I just didn't want to see another cage match, there has been way too many cage matches as of late, well as of today. But when Bischoff announced that this is going to be a ladder match, man this will possibly be one of the greatest ladder matches of all-time. Both Christian and Edge are both masters of the ladder matches so I'm definitely going to order the unforgiven pay per view, hell, this match is worth more than enough for me to pay the full price for this pay per view.

The eight match tag team match between, Benoit, Regal, Tajiri & Rhyno against La Resistance, Rhyno and Tajiri was just a bit short. The match ended with Benoit making Conway tap out, but what surprised me is that nothign happened after the match. Seeing how this is the last raw show before the ppv, I expected to see Benoit and Regal fight Batista and Flair or something like that.

The next match was Trish Stratus vs Nidia. This match happened due to Nidia and Trish getting it on backstage after Trish "insulted" Nidia. I have noticed that before almost every diva match the females participating in the match would fight each other backstage. I know it is to make people interested in this match but I feel like the the WWE are taking this just a bit too far.

Next was the Triple H vs Eugene Steel Cage Match. I was surprising happy on what happened in this match. Triple H destroyed Eugene. You begin to wonder that maybe the WWE have finally decided to drop Eugene's gimmick and that maybe the WWE might send him to Smackdown or OVW. If you remember (I think it was at Summerslam) Long told Bischoff that he would be happy to have Eugene on Smackdown, well Eugene has nothing left to do on Raw. He's storyline with Triple H has ended so it would make sense to send him over to Smackdown.

After the match they had a Edge interview backstage (by the Coach). Edge made some comments here that makes me feel that the WWE are keeping Edge between being a heel and a face. And I like this idea alot, only thing left is to find a gimmick for him instead of always fighting either jericho or insulting Evolution. Quick question, what ever happened to the Edge/Evolution storyline. Just a while ago Edge said that he was going to take down every member of Evolution. What the hell happened to that?

After this they had a Tomko/Jericho match. I was completely upset with this because I'm sick and tired to see Tomko always defeating Chris Jericho. For goodness sakes he is the first ever undisputed champion and look how crappy Raw is using him. Hopefully with Paul Heyman taking over with the creative storylines, maybe Jericho will finally get the push he deserves.

After this Stacy come out to announce the next diva to get eliminated from the diva search competition. I found this to be hilarious, Stacy announces that the women will have a arm wrestling tournament and the winner gets to dump a whole thing of texas chili on the other 3 girls. The only good thing that came out of this competition was that Carmella got covered in chili. I was kinda pissed that Amy got eliminated. I was hoping to see Christy gone but its alright. I wonder when will they end this dam competition, we all know that Carmella is going to win this dam thing so why not just give her the dam money and end this storyline right now.

After this diva search crap, a promo aired of Mr. Benjamin coming back. First off I'm glad Shelton Benjamin is finally coming back, Raw needs him but Mr. Benjamin, wow, its seems like the WWE are going to drop this "luck winning streak" gimmick for Shelton but now they are going to call him Mr. Benjamin. Well, all I can say is hopefully he won't become the JBL for Raw.

And after this Randy Orton had his match with Kane. This match was not to entertaining to watch. When this match ended in DQ I was actually surprised. It was such a short match and I didn't expect them to continue this match but when hhh came out and motioned for the cage to be lowered, the interest in this match came back to me. Bischoff announcing that this will now be a steel cage match made me pretty happy. The cage match between Orton and Kane was much much much more interesting to watch. I was surprised to see Orton winning, with HHH, Evolution and Kane trying to get their hands on Orton I didn't expect Orton to win this match. After the match Evolution triple teamed Orton and Orton fought them off with a chair. When Kane sat up, Orton quickly climbed out of the cage. I found this to be funny because the World Champ was running away but can you blame the guy? I believe this is the first time in which the WWE had a supestar get into the head of the game. As of late Orton has been outsmarting HHH and getting into his head. To be honest I hope this feud continues on to the next pay per view, my prediction for unforgiven is to have Orton retain his title, which will probably happen. Overall, the show will get from me a 6/10.

TEST this
09-07-2004, 06:08 AM
Just a friendly reminder, I did write the official WP RAW results tonite for the main page. Teehee...

Chazz
09-07-2004, 04:36 PM
Here are my thoughts.


Opening segment: Well, we knew that Edge was injured, so I think that it was pretty much a given that Y2J would meet Christian at Unforgiven. The question is, who do you put the belt on? Jericho should win the belt and then he and Edge could pick up there feud once Edge returns. But, going by Edge's promo last night, Edge is still a face. With Shelton Benjamin coming back as Mr. Benjamin, could we see a heel turn for the guy who just two months ago had the "luckiest guy in the world" gimmick? Probably so, which would mean that Jericho could elevate Shelton. If Christian wins, then what does the WWE do? I think the only clear thing right now about the IC title picture is that it is a mess. Anyway, the segment was good and it really did help build the match for Unforgiven. Ladder matches are always fun, and Jericho and Christian have been in enough to make this one good. Now, to the bad part of the opening segment. Why did Eugene have to face HHH inside a steel cage? Why? I'll talk about this more when I get to the actual match. Needless to say, I was not pleased with this decision.

Eight Man Tag: Well folks, if you ever wondered who has power on Raw, then look no further than Benoit. In August, he was the Heavyweight Champion who headlined SummerSlam. This month? He is in a meaningless tag team match with William Regal as his partner facing Evolution. This is one of the things that is killing Raw. How on earth you can treat Benoit like this is beyond me. His great year he was having is now reduced to ****. I'm sorry, but I just don't see why he is not still in the title picture, in some sort of way. Or, at least in a high profile angle with someone. All I have to say is that Benoit got one rematch for his title. HHH has had about a billion. Enough said. In any case, the match was okay. At least Benoit won with the sharpshooter.

Trish: Memo to the WWE. Trish is a horrible heel! Look, she just is not convincing at all with this role, and it is time for her to turn face. That or someone needs to work with her. Her match with Nidia was okay. Trish and Victoria should have a good match at Unforgiven. They seem to work well together.

Tomko vs. Jericho: Okay, either Jericho is going to win at Unforgiven, or Jericho has pissed someone off so bad that he had to job to Tomko, who is a worthless piece of ****!

Orton promo: Orton is trying, but it really seems he is uncomfortable being the face. I am starting to feel that HHH is gonna get the title back. Let's hope that doesn't happen.

Edge's promo: Okay, make up your mind WWE. Either turn Edge heel or keep him as a face. Quit teasing us.

HHH vs. Eugene: This match sucked! That is the only way I know how to describe it. Eugene has been buried by Hunter, which isn't a bad thing as I feel the Eugene gimmick has run its' course. But come on. Why kill it like this? Hunter is looking like he will get the title back at Unforgiven, especially since Orton has gotten the better of him lately. Eugene was basically squashed in this match to put over Hunter as a man on a mission. Terrible idea. I can't count how many times JR said that Eugene was a lamb being lead to the slaughter.

Orton vs. Kane: not a bad match, but I don't think Orton really helped himself here. Yeah, Kane was going to use the chair on Orton, but Randy did not need to lose via dq with a low blow. Well, he didn't, only because the cage came down and now it is Orton and Kane inside the cage where poor Eugene was tortured. Orton and Kane did nothing for there matches at Unforgiven, which is sad.

Overall, another sub-par performance from Raw. Hopefully, Paul Heyman can save the show and make it entertaining. He will still have to butt heads with HHH, but if he is given the authority to change Raw, then there is hope. Overall, I give Raw a 5/10.

Cripplerlock
09-09-2004, 04:54 AM
You leave the Raw board for one Monday and looks what happens. What am I going to do with you guys?

Let me just some general posting advice on a subject I am somewhat an expert in. There is such a thing as too much info. I guarantee that some Joe Schmoe poster out there is reading this thread, thinking "damn that is a lot of information, I am not sure I should respond." Now, I know usually do the Raw Review, which I try to as the show is going on so I can't really consolidate the post. Yes, it is good for someone to post the official results. However in the response post it is probably best for everyone not to try and do match by match commentary. Definitely give your viewpoints, but don't be like me and make it too long.

Now that the administrative stuff is out of the way. Yes of course I have some comments. As Y2J said, Orton played a litttle mind games with the original cerebral assassin, Triple H. WWE did something a little more different with the top face by having him run away from danger than try and stand and fight. Honestly, saw it as more realistic. Orton knew he was seriously outnumbered and got the hell out of there. It is not like back in the WCW days where Sting cleared the ring of like 10 NWO members with a baseball bat, or in the WWE where Austin stunned everyone in site. The face is allowed to use the "run away to fight for another day" tactic.

However, I agree with Chazz the build up was not that strong for Unforgiven. Actually that was to be expected. Raw was on a holiday this week and they usually know that viewership is going to be down by default. Therefore, they don't really try to go all out on a holiday show. It is unfortunate this was the last Monday before Unforgiven. I think the match between Orton and Triple H will be ok. That match could probaby survive without much buildup. I am not sure about the undercard. The ladder match is the type of match that can usually sell itself. I just hope this is the final of the Christian vs Jericho fued because until last week I thought it was over. Glad to hear Shelton Benjamin is coming back. We will have to see what the new gimmick will be like.
Unfortunately I guess Benoit knows how Jericho feels after he went straight downhill because he lost the undisputed championship. Benoit is back to tag team wrestling already. What is up with the WWE? Well hopefully, Benoit can get back into the title hunt at least befoe the year is up. Yes the cage match did suck. I haven't seen one that bad in a long time. It was just to squash the Eugene gimmick which probably has run its course. However, knowing the WWE I can't say it is completely dead. I will assume Eugene will be out of action in the storyline for awhile.

The Great One
09-11-2004, 12:57 AM
Here is my views on Raw.

The first segment was pretty good, but i feel this ladder match will be off the chart. Christian has been in lots of ladder matches and he hasn't let himself down in each one. I feel this will be exciting with both men being talented. A potential match of the night contender, and i certainly looking forward to it. Only complaint is that it might be a bit washed down unlike last time where they did everything they could, but this time round it may not be like that, they might moderate what high risk moves they do, the only worry i have. I am certainly looking forward to it.

The 4 man tag match, i feel this is what Benoit doesn't want. Main event Summerslam, and now he is fighting in tag matches. I thought this was a pretty decent match, and i am glad that Benoit won with the sharpshooter. But i feel sad for what has happened to Benoit how he has took a big step down. He needs to be main eventing or be around that area, not fighting in tag teams because that is one big step down. I just hope that Benoit gets back into the main event area, i also feel that they should of continued the Benoit/Orton feud because i feel that would of been a good feud and would of gotten Orton more over.

The steel cage match was pretty decent, but it was more of a squash match that basically got HHH over for the title match at Unforgiven. And it was basically to get Eugene of tv for a while to get time off. I would see it to be that way because i feel Eugene is losing some momentum that he had and i sense that his character has become stale. The time off may help him, and how he comes back may help his character get some spark back. I certainly hope that he doesn't come back at Unforgiven and help Orton retain the title because that will just degrade Orton that he needs help to retain. And the fans have seen Orton twice hold off Evolution using weapons and that he cannot hold himself without a weapon in hand, but needing help to win a match would be bad for him in a way.

Jericho vs Tomko, it was a little short. But it was decent, Tomko is a little green but i could see him becoming bigger in the future, all he needs is a gimmick change. And get lose from Christian because he is holding Christian back, and the same goes the other way round. Tomko is always going to be overshadowed by Christian so that he isn't going to benefit from being with Christian since Christian is getting most of the attention while Tomko gets very little. But i feel that Jericho losing, shows a little sign that he might win at Unforgiven. I do feel that Y2J doesn't need the IC title, but if this gets him onto better things then i am all for it. I will have to see how this plans out when it comes to Unforgiven.

Not even going to bother on the Divas crap, and i smirked a bit when Stacy made that mistake of announcing Amy beat Christy when it was the other way round. I got to say this was a waste of air time. I was hoping that Christy put the chilli over Carmellas head. Anway looks like it is between Carmella and Christy, Jay looks like the next one out for next week.

The main event. The first match started of slow, and didn't really get into any flow. I thought that pretty much was boring. And 2 steel cage matches in one night. Orton getting the low blow in, and getting himself DQ, i find that strange, i mean i thought only heels were supposed to get themselves DQ. It was pretty much obvious that Orton was going to win the cage match because this will obviously give him so momentum for the title match at Unforgiven, and once again the weapon bails him out. I feel something down below that HHH will get the title either at Unforgiven if not, he will get it back soon because Orton is getting the better of HHH which is giving signs that he may be getting another run. I certainly hope not. I guess we have to wait and see.

Raw was decent, not to shabby and not too good. 5 1/2 out of 10 from me. Sorry for the delay, i just only watched it.