confirmed/rumored matches for Unforgiven

[Sunshine]

The following are a mixture of confirmed and rumored matches for the RAW-brand only pay-per view, Unforgiven:

World Championship:
-Randy Orton (c) vs. Triple H

World Tag-Team Titles:
-La Resistance (c) vs. Tajiri & Rhyno

Women's Title:
-Trish Stratus (c) vs. Victoria

Singles Match:
-Shawn Michaels vs. Kane

Tag-Team Match:
-Chris Benoit & William Regal vs. Evolution

Singles Match:
-Chris Jericho vs. Christian

[Mr. Business]

That's only six matches, which is very poor for a PPV. I wouldn't mind if the matches were long, but normally the WWE just decides to add matches in at the last second (i.e. The Coach/Cade vs. Rhyno/Tajiri, Haas vs. Reigns). Which I was never a fan of.

However, besides the lack of matches, I think thats a pretty sick card. There are a few faults in the card, like I don't like the way Chris Benoit's being handled. One week he's in a 6 month World Championship title reign, and the next he's wrestling on Heat? Bah ... but other than that, I like the card.

I'll probably be ordering.

[Kalen™]

Not too bad a card IMO - regardless of what a Raw PPV involves it will always reign superior over a Smackdown! brand PPV ;) I am looking forward to the Main Event - HHH vs Randy should be great, as long as it doesn't end in an Evolution member run in.. the ONLY way I will not be in utter rage over a run in for the Heavyweight Championship is if it involves a new member coming in (can we say.. Xpac?!) but even then I have reserves..

Trish vs Victoria will be good - my two fave female wrestlers at it again.. quite funny that Survivor Series 2002 involved these two girls but with the heel/face roles reversed.. will they give Trish a heel run with the belt?

Other then these two above, I am only really interested in Kane vs HBK as it involves a monster that needs a push and my fave wrestler Shawn Micheals.. hopefully this can begin Kane's major push with HBK losing, but skyrocket Kane onto bigger things.. a long match would be nice and even though there are enough heel female's on Raw, I would really like to see Lita make the turn and cause HBK the match.. they could have Lita as the good omen for Kane and she could be like her lucky charm - winning matches and going up the ladder.. Lita could use a fresh start and Kane needs something too.. please WWE let it happen!!

Other then that - I am not interested in the tag team matches - let alone the tag championship match - the WWE give us no reason to enjoy them so why try?! As well as this, Christian vs Y2J is on AGAIN - welcome to repeat match #474 - I want to see Y2J get a major push soon - he deserves bigger things much like Kane..

The only other thing that could be interesting is a quick mud wrestling diva search rumble - but that could easily be wasted time on Raw, why ruin the PPV? (lol).. I will still be looking forward to 'Unforgiven' - it could lead to some great storylines :)

[The Great One]

I can easily sense that Lita is going to turn on HBK. Kane needs the victory, and this victory would let him go to bigger things hopefully, hopefully something that my revive his character a bit. I mean it is a bit dull at the moment, but this victory may lead to bigget and better things that might spark a new something in Kane that gets his character back to where it once was, but under the guidence of Lita. Seems pretty good to me to be honest, they have handled Kanes character very badly over the last year, at least they can get something right for once. I guess we will have to see how this plans out, but if HBK wins i seriously believe Kane is not going to last any longer, i mean HBK wins which puts Kane character down even more, whilst HBK does not need the victory goes back into the main event possibly.


The Jericho/Christian match, i guess it is tough for the management to pick out who is going to win this. Christian won last time out i think, and that means that Chris Jericho might win this time round. If Jericho does win, i hope that this is the stage that sets him up for a push into bigger things because Jericho has been midcarding for a long time, and he doesn't deserve it. He has done a lot for the WWE at least they could pay him back with a good push, and i am sure the fans would want to see that. I just hope this fued doesn't go on as long as the last one did because it certainly will cause people easily to get bored and switch off. I hope Jericho wins this time though, seriously this guy should be in and around the main event area because that is where he belongs.


Chris Benoit and Regal vs Evolution, i can see this ending with the Chris Benoit/Regal win. I can sort of see Eugene getting some part in this either interfering or just distracting the Evolution member. It could go either way, but i don't know where this is going. Evolution winning won't take them anywhere, as will with Regal and Benoit. It just seems that this match is there just to consume time, but if i was to choose a winner i would go with Evolution. I know they may not be a decent enough team but i think it will credit Batista more than Flair since Flair is already established. But the victory could help establish Batista a bit more. I do honestly believe that Benoit should not be in this match, this is a big step down to where he is concerned. Main eventing at Summerslam, now midcarding in a tag match a month later, just shows that the belt was just placed onto Benoit so they could work out what they we're going to do with it. I mean his reign wasn't the greatest, and certainly wasn't as good for a high profile wrestler in Benoit. I just hope that this does not hurt Benoit anymore than his loss at Summerslam, because Benoit has took a major step down, and if he loses it will definatly hurt his chances of regaining the belt more than anything else.


Randy Orton vs Triple H, Orton is going to win this. You can basically see what is going to go down; Eugene is going to play a part in the ending. Orton helped Eugene beat HHH on Raw, this time it is going to be Eugene helping Orton. I hope that doesn't happen because if Orton wins by himself this will give Orton a bit more credability than having someone help him win the match. It should be a match worth watching IMO, and i just hope that this match does not end in a DQ, if it does it is a sign that HHH is not going to lay down for Orton. And shows that he is going to get the title which i hope does not happen, not now, not later. It is Ortons time to shine, don't hold him back and win the belt because simply it will hurt Orton, and hurt his push that they have worked so hard for. I guess only time will tell to see what happens with this.


The other 2 matches are not worth commenting on.

[HBK]

Unforgiven does not look good except Orton/HHH & HBK/KANE

World Championship:
-Randy Orton (c) vs. Triple H
Randy Orton just won the title at Summerslam n WWE planning for his long-time reign.So Randy Orton definately wld one this thing.

World Tag-Team Titles:
-La Resistance (c) vs. Tajiri & Rhyno
Well,it's time to have next World Tag team champions.Since Rhyno n Tajiri returned to RAW ,both have got less Air-time.So i want both of them to win this thing which wld in turn help Raw's Tag team Division.

Women's Title:
-Trish Stratus (c) vs. Victoria
ummm..IMO.Victoria is a better champ than Trish Stratus.Hope she wons this time around.

Singles Match:
-Shawn Michaels vs. Kane
Yeah,this what i've being waiting for long time.HBK v/s Kane..this is the first time both are facing one on one.Though they fought at the first ever Elimination Chamber match which HBK won.As someone suggested,if HBK wld win this thing,this wld kill KANE's character..no one,I mean no one wld call him Big Red Monster after that.But but But,i think WWE wld have HBK won this thing..just coz this is his comeback match,dont get me wrong a.k.a Kurt Angle v/s Eddie Guerrero.

Tag-Team Match:
-Chris Benoit & William Regal vs. Evolution
Simple,Chris Benoit n William Regal wld get a win against Evolution.I want them to win just for sake of Benoit.I dont wanna see him in mid carder status for too long.

Singles Match:
-Chris Jericho vs. Christian
This feud now remembers me of HHH/HBK feud..it took more than 7-8 times,I dont care who wins here.Just kill this feud off.

[Mac Daddy]

World Heavyweight Championship
Triple H vs. Randy Orton (c)

-- I like the way the WWE has handled this so far, and I can't for Unforgiven. If I were the WWE, I'd do two things: 1. Not hire X-Pac as the newest Evolution member. X-Pac sucks and even the casual fans know it. I just may switch channels to The O'Reilly Factor or MSNBC everytime X-Pac is on the tv, if in fact he returns; 2. Let this feud continue. This Triple H-Orton thing needs to be prolonged beyond Unforgiven. I'm hoping the WWE would do this, because it'd be a smart thing to do.

>> Winner and still World Champ ... Randy Orton.

-- I do wish the WWE did not give Orton the title at Summerslam and had him win the belt here from Chris Benoit.


Kane vs. Shawn Michaels

-- The most retarded things on Raw always in some way, involve Kane. Please tell me why HBK was at the Republican Convention on the night his match against Kane for Unforgiven was announced? Had I been booking the show, HBK would have came out and chased off Kane after Lita made the initial announcement. That booking on the part of the WWE sucks major time and makes absolutely no sense. Did HBK even say anything at the RNC bit on Raw?

>> Winner ... Kane.

-- I'm guessing Kane will win here, but Shawn Michaels will continue to chase after the monster and get his revenge. Really, though, the Lita heel turn isn't needed. And it'd suck IMO. Until this "marriage" ends, Lita should resent Kane.


World Tag Team Championship
Rhyno & Tajiri vs. La Resistance (c)

-- I'm expecting this match to be nothing above weekly television quality. I haven't enjoyed watching Rhyno since last year, although I know he can do better, and La Resistance is boring. The only saving grace, in the least minimum way, is Tajiri.

>> Winners, new champs ... Rhyno & Tajiri.

-- And where do they go after this? Off to Sunday Night Heat, or another two-month program with La Resistance until the WWE finally pulls its head out of its ass and build a tag division on Raw.


Chris Benoit & William Regal vs. Batista & Ric Flair

-- I'm expecting this to be nothing above weekly television quality. William Regal bores the living **** out of me, Chris Benoit and Batista deserve better, and Ric Flair is Ric Flair. Honestly, was all this bull**** needed? Regal sucks, so they should have took him out of the picture and put Chris Benoit in a singles match against Batista or a handicap match against Batista and Flair. I somehow believe that William Regal is going to kill this for me.

>> Winners ... Chris Benoit and William Regal.

-- There's no way - I refuse to believe - that they're going to job Chris Benoit out to Evolution again.


Women's Championshio
Victoria vs. Trish Stratus (c)

-- I love the women's division so much. These ladies work their asses off to entertain us. They may not be Mexican or Japanese female workers, but they deserve waaay better than the casual, some smark fans, and the WWE give them. I think this match is going to be great, but it's really time we move away from the Trish, Victoria, Lita donut hole. Let the other talented ladies shine some.

>> Winner, and still champ ... Trish.

-- Victoria's held the belt too many times and so has Trish. But Trish already has it. After Trish eventually loses the title, she doesn't need it for at least another year. In that time, let her rise to the level of past great valets by Christian's side.


Chris Jericho vs. Christian

-- This sucks. The Edge-Jericho feud sucks. This whole situation sucks.

>> Don't care.

-- Blah.



The WWE could have done a lot better. Raw is sinking and this pay-per-view may end up being a notch below a decent Vengeance pay-per-view.

[Lover Nuts]

Unforgiven still doesn't look too good for me. The only matches I would want to see is HBK/Kane and HHH/Orton.

Can anyone confirm for me that in the UK you have to pay for Unforgiven on Box Office?

[Y2J World Champ]

World Championship:
-Randy Orton (c) vs. Triple H

Prediction: Randy Orton

As many of you know the WWE were desperate to make a good main event in which it would attract many viewers to watch this pay per view, Unforgiven. This match was supposed to be a WMXXI match but because of the ratings they decided to have it occur in Unforgiven. We all know that Randy Orton will definitely retain the World Title. It is so predictable. Randy Orton has only been champion for a few months and it wouldn't make sense if Triple H wins the World Title without Orton having a proper title run. We know that Randy Orton is the future of the WWE and I know the WWE are trying to go that direction. And the only way that could happen is if Randy Orton had a long title run, maybe all the way to the Royal Rumble pay per view. Back to the match, we know that Evolution is going to try to come out and try to cost Randy Orton the World Title, I think whats going to happen is both Randy Orton and Triple H are going to be pretty even. It is going to be like both superstars are exactly the same, and what I'm trying to say is when you watch this match both superstars would be so even that you really can't tell who would win. IMO it would be best if something like these could happen, of course this would lead to Evolution coming out and attacking Randy Orton. Now, I'm going far by saying it would be better if The Rock came out and helped Randy Orton. It wouldn't kill the Rock if he came out and helped Randy fight off Evolution thus helping Orton retain the World Title. Seeing how rumors have it that Randy Orton will be taking on The Rock at WMXXI (which would be great if it did) why not have a little teaser at Unforgiven by having The Rock help Randy Orton. This way with Evolution and The Rock interfering, the WWE could have another Randy Orton/Triple H match later in the year to prove who really is the better wrestler.


World Tag-Team Titles:
-La Resistance (c) vs. Tajiri & Rhyno

Prediction: Tajiri & Rhyno

This is another match that is a little predictable. Let me make a bold statement by saying Tajiri and Rhyno NEED to be the World Tag Team Champions. Ever since the WWE gave the tag team titles to La Resistance, La Resistance haven't been able to make an impact with the fans. Now, you can't blame it to La Resistance, you also have to blame it to the writers who haven't been able to find a storyline for them. This is something I hate about the WWE, the WWE would give the titles to a superstar and not even have a storyline for them. For example, the WWE gave La Resistance the tag team titles and what have they done since then. Absolutely nothing. The writers took a huge chance by giving them the tag titles and it failed so now they make up this tag team of Tajiri and Rhyno and of course they are going to be the tag team champions at Unforgiven. But what I worry the most is that the WWE writers will not find storyline for Tajiri and Rhyno once they do become the tag team champions. I know that the WWE loves taking chances in the WWE and I feel like the WWE are making a wise choice by giving the World tag titles to Rhyno and Tajiri. I just hope that the WWE can bring in some new tag teams on Raw, one tag team that have wrestled together in house shows are the tag team of Chuck Palumbo and Garrison Cade, I just hope one day they actually become a tag team and wrestle on Raw and maybe even become World tag team title contenders.


Women's Title:
-Trish Stratus (c) vs. Victoria

Prediction: Trish Stratus

There's no reason why to give the Womens title to Victoria. For some reason I feel like the WWE will give Victoria the title which is something that shouldn't happen, Victoria just doesn't seem right to be the Womens Champion right now. The Womens title has become like a joke on Raw. The reason the Womens title has become a joke is because of this Raw Diva Search. This diva search has taken up time for the Womens Champion Trish Stratus to defend her title, that and because she has an injury on her arm/hand (forgot which one). If this match does happen then it is for two reasons, one to take up space in the pay per view and the other is so that people won't forget that the Womens Title is on raw (seeing how you rarely see the title being defended on Raw because of Trish's injury and all) That's pretty much all I can really say about this match.


Singles Match:
-Shawn Michaels vs. Kane

Prediction: Shawn Michaels

If the WWE want to salvage Kane's character then Kane needs to win this match. Shawn Michaels would gain absolutely nothing if he won this match, while Kane needs to get this victory if the WWE want to consider Kane to be a dominant superstar on Raw. But for some reason I feel like Shawn Michaels will win this match by some sort of interference, the reason I say this is because this reminds me of the Undertaker/Kane feud/match that happened at WMXX. If you remember at WMXX Undertaker made his return and beat Kane in less than 8 minutes. And again history is repeating itself, I feel like Shawn Michaels would come back and beat Kane in less than 10 minutes, this is my gut feeling but I hope it doesn't happen. If it does then there is pretty much no other options to save Kane's character and credibility. I feel like this feud will continue on even after Unforgiven. They will probably have Shawn Michaels win this match (it would probably happen because the WWE never liked the idea of having a huge superstar return to a pay per view and lose in his very first return-match) with interference by Lita. Then in the next Raw pay per view Kane and Shawn Michaels would face each in some sort of gimmick match, maybe a Street Fight, Cage Match, Hell in a Cell match, buried alive match, casket match, who knows but it does need to be some sort of gimmick match to end this feud once and for all. And in that match Kane should definitely win with the help from Lita, this way it could bring some fresh new stuff into this storyline. Either way I can almost guarantee that Shawn Michaels will win his match against Kane at Unforgiven.


Tag-Team Match:
-Chris Benoit & William Regal vs. Evolution

Prediction: Batista & Ric Flair (Evolution)

The reason I predicted for Evolution to win is because of Batista. We all know that Batista will one day become the Intercontinental Champion so thats why I'm saying Batista needs this win. Chris Benoit has already been marked as being a World Title contender. William Regal is not going to win the Intercontinental Title anymore, in a few months he's just going to become a jobber and then he would retire just like Lance Storm and Tommy Dreamer did a few months ago, so Regal doesn't need to win this match. So this match should definitely go to Batista to try to help his career, they could have Batista pin Chris Benoit which would lead to a Batista/Chris Benoit feud in which it will end in the very next Raw pay per view. This could be the beginning of Batista's career. But what I'm worried about is having Benoit job to Batista twice, the reason is because not that long ago Benoit was the World Heavyweight Champion and in the next pay per view he's now wrestling in tag team matches. I know this would hurt Benoit just a little bit but I think it is a sacrifice that is worth it, seeing how Batista is another future star for monday night Raw. It takes sacrifices to make careers, and this is something that Benoit must do. I understand that the WWE would Benoit in this match so that when Batista and Flair wins, it would make Batista look more of a IC contender which I agree completely with this storyline for Batista.


Singles Match:
-Chris Jericho vs. Christian

Prediction: Christian

I can almost guarantee that Christian would win. The reason I say this is because with Christian winning they could have Christian begin a feud with Edge for the Intercontinental Title in the future. I know this will definitely hurt Chris Jericho but again you need to make sacrifices to help the company. My idea for Jericho is to have Chris Jericho face Chris Benoit at WMXXI but there is still enough time left to make Jericho look like a World title contender. Right now he is just being used to make other superstars become contenders, for example Batista. I know Christian has all the skills to become a World title contender but now he should stay in the IC Divison, he should though move on to become a world title contender in about 8-10 months. Thats more than enough time for Christian to fully devolop into being a contender. Right now Christian just needs to be in big matches against Shawn Michaels, Shelton Benjamin and possibly Randy Orton. As for Chris Jericho, Jericho doesn't need to defeat Christian, it wouldn't do much for his victory. But thats why I'm hoping that Jericho could begin a feud with Triple H and if they had Jericho win then that would be a great start to re-constructing Chris Jericho's career and thus helping Jericho become a World Heavyweight Title contender.

[legendaryken]

Unforgiven is on Sky Sports in the UK I think, and is therefore free!!!

Predictions:

Orton over HHH

Tajiri/Rhyno over La Resistance

Trish over Victoria

Shawn Michaels over Kane. Lita might , just might, have something to do with this. :D

Batista/Flair over Regal/Benoit.

Christian over Jericho, though this one is difficult to predict and should be match of the night. (What are you talking about, Mac Daddy?)

[Mac Daddy]

Christian over Jericho, though this one is difficult to predict and should be match of the night. (What are you talking about, Mac Daddy?)


I'm sure it'll be decent. Look, Christian just came back from an injury and Chris Jericho's been in a slump recently. It'll be nothing innovative. Simply decent. And my real discontent came from the repetitiveness of the whole situation.