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The Great One
07-27-2004, 02:40 AM
Posted by The Legend Killer on 07/26/2004 on WrestlingIntensity.com
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Event: WWE Monday Night RAW
Date: Monday, July 26th, 2004
Location: The Mellon Arena, Pittsburgh, PA

RAW is live tonight from the Mellon Arena, Pittsburgh, PA.

WWE RAW Opener:

Backstage, the girls from the Diva Search were shown dancing and tonight one of them will be voted off as ten become nine in our search to find a new WWE Diva! Coach walked in front of the ladies and Julia, one of the twins, was eliminated! Coach told the ladies that later tonight, they will have the opportunity to verbally seduce a WWE Superstar, and Coach wants them at their seductive best! A video package then played hyping up the feud between Chris Benoit and Triple H and the path both men have taken since the Royal Rumble. The opening music and video then played as Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler welcomed us to RAW.

Number One Contenders Match
Twenty Man Battle Royal

The music of the Intercontinental Champion, Edge, hit in the arena as he made his way to the ring and the ring was already filled with superstars. Matt Hardy then made his way out to the ring. Chris Jericho then made his way out and the ring is really filling up here in the Melon Arena. Kane made his way down and he is another entrant in this match. The music of Evolution hit and Ric Flair, Randy Orton and Batista made their way out, and they will be taking part in the Battle Royal too! The music of Eric Bischoff then hit in the arena and he said that tonight, we will have a 60 Minute Iron Man Challenge for the WWE Championship, however at SummerSlam, the winner of tonight's championship match will defend that title against the winner of this Battle Royal!

The start:

All of the men went at it in the ring and William Regal was eliminated by Batista. Jericho dropkicked Tyson Tomko and he was eliminated by Jericho and Edge. Jericho charged at Chuck Palumbo and Edge and Jericho are working as a team and they dumped Chuck Palumbo to the outside.

Mid-match Notes:

Randy Orton hit an RKO on Edge and then Flair hit Edge with a low blow. We then went to commercial break. Back on RAW and during the break, Kane eliminated Val Venis from the match with a clothesline. Matt Hardy then almost sent Kane outside but Kane got him out too with a back drop. Kane then mouthed off at Kane and Matt Hardy came back inside and went to work on Kane and he had to be stopped by the referee. Hurricane was eliminated and then Rosey eliminated Stevie Richards and Rodney Mack and then Rosey was sent out by Jericho and Edge.

Tajiri sent Sylvan Grenier to the outside and then also eliminated Rob Conway. Flair went to work on Tajiri in the corner as Batista choked away at Edge. Tajiri was eliminated by Kane. Flair worked over Edge with chops.

Kane worked over Maven as Batista choked on Rhyno. Flair went to the top rope and Edge caught him and threw him into the ring and then Jericho locked in the Walls of Jericho on Flair until it was broken by Batista. Edge scored with a spear on Kane but Kane sat up as we went to yet another commercial break.

Back on RAW and eight men still remain. During the break, Edge was almost eliminated by Orton and Flair but saved himself with a low blow. Kane hit a side walk slam on Maven and then Flair chopped Kane but it had little effect. Kane then gave Flair the Chokeslam. Batista and Kane stared each other down and went to work on other with right hands. Batista then hit a huge spinebuster and then Rhyno hit the Gore on Batista! Maven then eliminated Ric Flair frop the match with a clothesline!

Rhyno hit a big Gore on Maven and then Rhyno was eliminated by Orton. Edge and Jericho double teamed Kane and then Batista joined in and Kane was eliminated. Maven and Orton went to work on each other and Maven almost got Orton out but Orton saved himself but Maven ended up being eliminated by Orton and we are down to the final four with Edge, Jericho, Batista and Edge. Edge and Jericho then double teamed Batista and he was taken out and then Jericho turned on Edge and tossed him out and Edge did not look too happy to say the least!

We are down to the final two and they are Chris Jericho and Randy Orton and the winner will face the World Champion at SummerSlam. Orton scored with a modified spinebuster and Jericho fought back and almost took Orton out with him on his shoulders but Orton was holding on for dear life and then took over on Jericho and he tought he eliminated Jericho but Jericho skinned the cat and got back inside, Orton then clotheslined Jericho but Jericho again held on. Jericho pulled on Orton and both men are teetering but both men fight up and they are both on the apron of the ring trading chops.

The Finish:

Jericho was almost out on the apron and both men are fighting for dear life and then Orton scored an RKO with Jericho on the apron and then Orton scored with a low dropkick to finally eliminate Chris Jericho and Randy Orton is the Number One Contender and he will be inthe main event at SummerSlam!

Winner - Randy Orton

Backstage:

Coach was backstage with the Diva's and next, we will see them seduce a WWE Superstar!

Coach said they have 20 seconds to verbally seduce a WWE Superstar. They started with Michelle and she faced the curtain and it was Kamala! She tried to seduce him and he made funny noises and slapped on his tummy. Christi was next and she faced the curtain and it opened up and she tried to seduce Kamala and she rubbed his belly. Next was Camile, followed by Maria, then Traci, then Carmella and she just laughed and said he was so sexy, whilst laughing. Chandra was up next and she pinched his nipples. Amy was next and the crowd popped for some reason and she danced up against Kamala. Finally we had Joy and she tried to seduce Kamala and that was that. Wrestlecrap Hall of Fame here we come.

Democratic National Convention:

Ivory, Stacy Keibler and Linda McMahon at the Democratic National Convention at the Fleet Center in Boston, Massachusetts. They plugged the Smackdown! Your Vote campaign and spoke about issues surrounding politics. Ivory said if you are 18-30 and have not registered to vote, you should do so.

In The Arena:

Coach introduced the RAW Diva Seach contestants out to the stage and they were in Bikini's and he ran through all the numbers you should call to vote off the next contestant. You can also vote on WWE.com, so go vote, or not.

In The Arena:

Coach introduced the RAW Diva Seach contestants out to the stage and they were in Bikini's and he ran through all the numbers you should call to vote off the next contestant. You can also vote on WWE.com, so go vote, or not.

Backstage:

Orton was shown backstage celebrating with Evolution and Triple H came up and Orton said it will be the biggest honor of his life to face Triple H for the World Championship. Orton offered his hand, and Triple H shook it and Triple H said he did not need luck. There was an intense vibe coming off of the Game.

World Heavyweight Championship Match
Sixty Minute Iron Man Match
Referee: Michael Chioda
Triple H vs. Chris Benoit (c)

The music of Triple H hit in the arena as he made his way to the ring for this Iron Man Match for the World Heavyweight Championship against Chris Benoit where the man with the most falls in an hour will be declared the World Heavyweight Champion! Michael Chioda took both men threw the rules of the match, in the result of a tie we will go to overtime.

The start:

Chris Benoit and Triple H locked up and Triple H backed Benoit to the corner and scored with a right but Benoit reversed and then scored a chop to the chest of the Game. They locked up again and Triple H scored with a shot to the back and then a knee to the midsection. They tied up again and again Triple H scored with some shots to the back and then locked in a side headlock but Benoit escaped with a head scissors.

Mid-match notes:

Chris Benoit locked in a side headlock and took Triple H down to the mat. Triple H escaped and then Benoit attempted to lock in the Crippler Crossface but Triple H rolled to the outside of the ring. Back inside and the two again locked up and Benoit knocked Triple H down with a shoulder block and then Triple H went for the Pedigree but Benoit got out of it. The fans started to chant for Triple H as they again locked up and Triple H gave Benoit a waist lock takedown but Benoit got the advantage with a rear chin lock and then turned it into a side headlock. Benoit was sent to the ropes and came back with a shoulder block and then a hip toss and Benoit again went for the Crossface and Triple H escaped to the outside with six minutes of the match gone. Triple H came back inside and scored with a knee to the gut and sent Benoit to the outside where Benoit scored with some chops and sent HHH back inside. Another lock up and Benoit gave Triple H and leg takedown and then used the ropes to attack the leg of the Game. Benoit kicked away at the leg of Triple H and Benoit then gave HHH a leg lace takedown and again went to the ropes to work on the leg of the Game.

The two men traded punches in the corner and Benoit gave HHH a bodyslam and then drove Triple H's leg knee first into the canvas. Benoit whipped HHH to the corner and charged but was met with a boot to the face. Triple H then scored with a big time DDT as Triple H got himself to his feet. Triple H went to work on Benoit with rights and then stomped Benoit on the mat. Triple H scored with the face buster and went for the Pedigree but Benoit countered and went for the Sharpshooter but Triple H kicked him away. Benoit then locked in the Sharpshooter and then rolled Triple H up using the Crossface for the first fall of the night! Chris Benoit 1-0 Triple H as we went to commercial break.

Back on RAW at the 45 minute mark and Benoit is still in control of the Game. Benoit scored with some shots to the back of the Game and then hit a belly to back suplex for a near fall. Benoit went to work on Triple H with some chops and then locked in an abdominal stretch right in the middle of the ring. Triple H was hiplocked to the outside of the ring by the Game and then Triple H followed him out. HHH rammed Benoit back first into the apron and then viciously whipped Benoit to the corner which floored the World Champion. Triple H went to whip Benoit again but Benoit reversed and then charged at HHH but was met with a boot to the face. Triple H then hit Benoit with some shoulder thrusts in the corner and gave Benoit a big right hand. Benoit tried to fight back but Triple H gave him a backbreaker and took him to the corner and went for an Irish whip but Benoit reversed and sent the Game to the outside and then Benoit hit a tope through the ropes onto Triple H and Benoit's head went right into the barricade.

Back on RAW at the 37 minute mark and Benoit is working over the Game on the outside and during the break, Benoit sent HHH into the steel steps. Back inside the ring and Benoit went for the Sharpshooter but HHH kicked him away and Benoit went back to work on the left leg of the Game and locked in a modified version of the Indian Deathlock but HHH made it to the ropes. Benoit hit a knee breaker on Triple H and locked in a Figure Four Leglock and eventually Triple H managed to turn Benoit over and both men ended up in the ropes. Benoit took HHH to the corner and scored with some mounted punches but Triple H gave him snake eyes. Benoit fought back and gave Triple H the triple vertical suplexes and then headed up top and came off with the headbutt but Triple H moved out of the way. Triple H then sent Benoit sternum first into the turnbuckle and Benoit went down in pain. Triple H then hit the Pedigree to tie up the match 1-1. Benoit then rolled to the outside as Triple H stayed inside and told the referee to count and we are at the 30 minute mark.

Triple H went to the outside and maneuvered the ring steps and then gave Benoit a front suplex into the steps, sternum first. The referee began the count and Benoit couldn't make it back inside and Triple H took a 2-1 lead as we went to another commercial break.

Back on RAW with 18 minutes left and Benoit took the Game down with a hip toss and Triple H fought back and went for the Pedigree but Benoit blocked it and took Triple H down and went for the Sharpshooter but HHH kicked him away and again went for the Pedigree but this time Benoit blocked and locked in the Sharpshooter on the Game in the middle of the ring and Triple H almost made it to the ropes but Benoit dragged him back into the middle of the ring and Triple H was forced to tap out to make it 3-2 in favor of The Game. Triple H clawed to the outside of the ring and attempted to come back inside but Benoit gave him a baseball slide to knock him to the outside. Benoit followed Triple H out and went to work on Triple H with some right hands and chops. Benoit threw HHH inside and then locked in the Crippler Crossface in the center of the ring! Triple H clawed around in the ring desperately trying to get to the ropes and he made it and got his foot on the ropes. Benoit again locked in the Crossface and Triple H was forced to tap out, twice in one match, to tie this match at three falls apiece!

Batista and Ric Flair then made their way down the aisle as the match was tied and we went to commercial break. Back live and Benoit is in control of Triple H in the corner but Triple H fought back and sent Benoit to the outside of the ring. Batista and Ric Flair stood away from Benoit, because they don't want to lose a fall for Triple H via disqualification. Benoit got on the apron and rammed his shoulder into the midsection of the Game. Triple H gave Benoit a knee to send him back outside and then distracted the referee as Batista sent Benoit head first into the ring post! Batista threw Benoit back inside and Triple H made the cover but Benoit kicked out and we have six minutes left! Benoit was busted wide open and Triple H sent Benoit to the corner but Benoit fought back and hit two German's but Triple H blocked the third and went for a clothesline but Benoit moved and Triple H clocked the referee.

Benoit locked in the crossface but Batista and Flair got on the apron and Benoit knocked Batista down and Flair came in with a chair and tossed it to the Game and while Benoit was taking care of Flair, Triple H knocked Benoit out with a chair shot to the back of the head. Eric Bischoff came out with referee Jack Doan and Triple H had a cover and Benoit kicked out! Triple H again made the cover but Benoit continued to kick out and Triple H took out the second referee and then Flair and Batista came inside and Flair held Benoit as Batista went to work on him. Batista then held Benoit as Triple H took some shots and then Eugene came out of the crowd and got into the ring! Eugene charged at Triple H and then went to work on Batista and Flair with right hands and he is taking on all three members of Evolution and he hit a stunner on Flair and a Rock Bottom on the Game and then dropkicked Batista to the outside and then knocked Bischoff off the apron. Triple H went at Eugene with a chair, but Eugene got a hold of it and then knocked Triple H out with the the chair and the fans were eating it up!

The Finish:

We have just over a minute left in the match as Benoit crawled over to make the cover on Triple H. Benoit draped his arm over the Game and we are at 45 seconds. Eugene picked up Michael Chioda and threw him inside and we have under 30 seconds left! Chioda was still groggy and made the cover and Benoit has retained his World Heavyweight Championship with five seconds to go!

Winner, and still World Heavyweight Champion, Chris Benoit

The aftermath:

Eugene jumped up and down for joy on the outside of the ring as the referee held up the hand of Benoit on the canvas. Eugene climbed up on the announce table and clapped Benoit and Benoit looked at him and smiled and told him thanks. Benoit picked up his belt and celebrated and what a match this has been! Triple H was shown and he stared at Eugene who was still on the announce table as Eugene gave him a thumbs down and Triple H looked like he was about to explode!

End of show.

Y2J World Champ
07-27-2004, 03:18 AM
So its official, it is going to be Randy Orton vs Chris Benoit for the World Heavyweight Title and (probably) Eugene vs Triple H. Man, I just hope Orton can perform at the main-event level and the chances are they are going to give him the title so he can begin a feud with Triple H for the World Title, but thats just my opinion.

Superman33
07-27-2004, 03:28 AM
Orton will probably take the belt off of Benoit. For the past few months the crowd has been behind him, and it's what they wanna see.

Y2J World Champ
07-27-2004, 03:32 AM
If Orton does get the World Title (which he will) I just hope he makes a good Champion. As for the Eugene/HHH match, well, it would be a good match but I just don't know if it will be good enough for a big event like Summerslam.

The Kid
07-27-2004, 04:09 AM
I'm not so enthusiastic about Orton's likelyhood of taking the title. I don't think that he is ready, I don't think he's been properly built and last I just like seeing a talented wrestler get the title instead of just seeing guys who are good on the mic or are big get it. Benoit shows that there is hope for people who are technical wrestlers in the WWE. He never had to resort to turning into a brawling style wrestler which is good to see.

Orton isn't the next Rock. For some reason ever since Orton came into the WWE he was thought of as such by WWE management. They see a good-looking third generation superstar and they think of Rocky. The Rock is a once in a lifetime type wrestler. He is more charismatic than anybody who has ever stepped inside a ring and plain and simple Orton just wasn't born with the ability to be able to entertain like Rocky was.

Now onto Raw, not a bad show but I would have liked to see a few matches rather than the Battle Royal and they could have built the PPV matches in the way I suggested in the Iron Man match preview thread. I've never really been a fan of Battle Royals and this wasn't really one that was any better than I might have thought.

The Kamala bit was hilarious but I think it would have worked better with less people because by the end of it I sort of got old. And I didn't think it was possible but I am even less impressed with this Diva Search than I was before. Not only does it seem that they aren't looking for good wrestlers but not good actresses as well. I shouldn't be too surpised. After all is there a female wrestler outside of Molly, Victoria and Jazz who can act or wrestle in the WWE?

The iron man match was really good but what do you expect? Benoit was in it. Triple H worked Benoit's sternum masterfully and there were few breaks in this match. I would have liked to see Benoit work on Triple H's legs more as he did it wonderfully in the opneing moments of the match. This match actually had me marking out for a Benoit victory but I didn't really want to see it go down like that. I would have rather seen Eugene hit Trips with the chair and then Benoit hit Triple H with a Dragon suplex ( very underused move, looks amazing) with the win. The fact that Benoit used a different move to win would downplay the significance of Eugene's interference which would allow Benoit to gain even more credibilty with the win.

All in all, Raw was a good show despite the lack of matches. I'm not really into ranking a show but I will say that if the WWE put on matches like this main event more often than they would be considered the top WRESTLING (not sports entertainment)company in the world....well it would still be below ROH but oh well.

Y2J World Champ
07-27-2004, 04:13 AM
Randy Orton is not going to be the next Rock but he is going to be the first Randy Orton. :winkok:

I believe this is the first time there has been only 2 matches on Raw. But both matches were very important and needed as much time as it could get to develop into a great match and I believe the WWE did a good job on this. So rumors that begun many months ago of a possible Orton/HHH feud might actually begin if Orton wins the world title at Summerslam. If he does win it, I think it will be because of HHH. Have HHH come out and help Orton win the belt, the next night HHH can congratulate him and ask him to give him the honor of having hhh as the # 1 contender. HHH complains to Bischoff to give him a shot, benoit walks in asks for a re-match, and a Orton vs HHH vs Benoit Match would be set for the next Raw pay per view.

Se7en
07-27-2004, 04:52 AM
To answer why Amy got a pop, she was wearing a steelers jersey-shirt, and RAW was in pittsburgh.

Y2J World Champ
07-27-2004, 04:57 AM
To answer why Amy got a pop, she was wearing a steelers jersey-shirt, and RAW was in pittsburgh.

Well she's not the first to get a cheap pop by wearing the jersey of the town they are in. John Cena does it all the time, and it has worked for him, so maybe its going to help her as well and if you watched Raw it did.

Back into the battle royal, the WWE, IMO, teased us by having Jericho and Orton as the last two men. Many of us thought we would have Jericho win which could lead to a Y2J/Benoit match at SS but instead Orton came out on top. If Orton wins the belt is because he deserves it (maybe a little too early) or because the WWE also wants to get revenge on Brock for leaving the WWE without early notice so they are ending Brock's record of youngest WWE Champion and give it to Orton instead (hope that made sense)> Hey, but at least we can still hope for a Y2J/Benoit match at WMXXI right here in sunny Los Angeles, California.

Chazz
07-27-2004, 01:26 PM
There is no way in hell that Orton will win the title at SummerSlam. If he does, then I am done with wrestling completely.

Gravedigger
07-27-2004, 02:35 PM
The fact that Benoit used a different move to win would downplay the significance of Eugene's interference which would allow Benoit to gain even more credibilty with the win.
Why should Benoit have downplayed the significance of Eugene's interference? Benoit was being beaten down by Evolution. I'm glad Eugene helped Benoit because it gets really old whenever we see this scenario all the time:

Wrestler A vs. Wrestler B. Wrestler B is in a faction with Wrestlers C, D, and E. All three come down and it's a four on one. Then Wrestler A makes a comeback, cleans house and beats Wrestler B.

It's so old and I'm glad Wrestler F...I mean Eugene came down to help Benoit.

Chazz -


There is no way in hell that Orton will win the title at SummerSlam. If he does, then I am done with wrestling completely.
Well, get ready to be completely done with it and join me on the list of people who rarely ever watch wrestling. I watched the last 2 minutes of the iron man match just to see who would win and that's the most wrestling I've watched in over a month with the exception of the first 30 minutes of SD a couple of weeks ago.

WWE is too concerned with putting their title belts on people that the crowd spend all their time gushing over rather than who would benefit the business. WWE doesn't give a damn about the business anymore, just the almighty dollar. I think that's another reason why I don't watch wrestling much anymore.

Y2J World Champ
07-27-2004, 03:06 PM
Well for me I'm willing to give a chance to the WWE if Orton does win the World Title. I'am curious to see what will happen after Orton (if) wins the title. For me, no matter what happens I'm always a wrestling fan 4 life, no matter what.

Chazz
07-27-2004, 03:16 PM
See, here is the thing. The fans wanted Jericho to win last night. In fact, since Jericho turned face, he has gotten the biggest pops for the Raw shows. Hell, if anyone deserves a title run, it's Jericho.

I know Orton will be the champ one day, but why on Earth should it be now? The guy has only just begun and if it wasn't for Foley, he would not be as over as he is now. I like Randy...........I really do. But his time is not now. :thumsdown

JustinCredible
07-27-2004, 03:18 PM
with last nights show...I think that they are slowly molding a new HHH, an unbeatable,champ...a face...but still will have the title for quite some time...just slowly filling out HHH's place in WWE as he drifts away from it...

Y2J World Champ
07-27-2004, 03:19 PM
My theory is for Orton winning the title early is because the WWE wants Orton to have the record for the youngest person to win the World Title because they don't want Brock to have that record, and the reason for that is because the WWE probably hated Brock leaving without early notice. But that is just one of many theories.

Well I'm glad Jericho didn't win it because I would rather see Jericho vs Benoit for the World Title at WMXXI.

JustinCredible
07-27-2004, 03:40 PM
yes very much...i was rooting for Jericho all the way last night, I have been waiting for his push FOREVER...but still to no avail...

Y2J World Champ
07-27-2004, 03:42 PM
Well his last real good push was when he won the Undisputed Title a few years ago, after he dropped the title to Triple H its pretty much been downhill for Y2J. So hopefully they will "Finally" give him a push to be the world champ at WMXXI.

Gravedigger
07-27-2004, 03:49 PM
Well his last real good push was when he won the Undisputed Title a few years ago, after he dropped the title to Triple H its pretty much been downhill for Y2J. So hopefully they will "Finally" give him a push to be the world champ at WMXXI.
I doubt it because HHH will have started another 20 month long reign by then and I doubt Jericho will ever get another win over HHH. His ego wouldn't allow that.

Mr. Long
07-27-2004, 03:50 PM
You just want Jericho to win the World Title at WM21 so you can see him win it in person.

Personally I think Jericho will (or should) be in line for a title shot within a few months of Orton winning it. Maybe at Survivor Series. If not at Survivor Series, then I think it will be Orton vs. Jericho at WM21.

Triple X
07-27-2004, 04:24 PM
i think orton will win. he deserves the title. I also think jerhico orton at wm21 or survivoir series will be great. The new generation of superstars need what they deserve, main event spots.

D-Dogg
07-27-2004, 04:25 PM
If Orton does win at SummerSlam i can see this to be what would follow:

Orton's ego will obviously go sky high and as the Champ he will think himself to be the best and slowly but surely Orton will start to force himself on as the new leader of Evolution this will lead to a bit of controversy between him and Triple H but nothing will happen after a few months of build up Orton and the rest of Evolution will eventually turn on Triple H and kick him out of Evolution Triple H will be gone for a short term and then come back as a face from here we will get an Orton vs. Triple H fued with Trips regaining his title and then to take it off Triple H i could see a Heel Edge being the next in line then hopefully only if i go to church and pray every night will we see Edge vs. Jericho and Chris finally getting what he deserves (it's a long shot but hey why the hell not) i mean all of these would fit very close together and an idea for turning Edge heel would be possibly making Edge join Evolution with a whole "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" attitude, that way they have the Heavyweight Champ and Intercontinental Champ (assuming Edge holds the belt till then) i'm not saying this will happen but it is a possibility

Y2J World Champ
07-27-2004, 05:56 PM
If Orton does win at SummerSlam i can see this to be what would follow:

Orton's ego will obviously go sky high and as the Champ he will think himself to be the best and slowly but surely Orton will start to force himself on as the new leader of Evolution this will lead to a bit of controversy between him and Triple H but nothing will happen after a few months of build up Orton and the rest of Evolution will eventually turn on Triple H and kick him out of Evolution Triple H will be gone for a short term and then come back as a face from here we will get an Orton vs. Triple H fued with Trips regaining his title and then to take it off Triple H i could see a Heel Edge being the next in line then hopefully only if i go to church and pray every night will we see Edge vs. Jericho and Chris finally getting what he deserves (it's a long shot but hey why the hell not) i mean all of these would fit very close together and an idea for turning Edge heel would be possibly making Edge join Evolution with a whole "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" attitude, that way they have the Heavyweight Champ and Intercontinental Champ (assuming Edge holds the belt till then) i'm not saying this will happen but it is a possibility

That is what would probably happen but only time can tell now. Wouldn't it be a shocker if Benoit actually retained his title at Summerslam.

TheMainMan25
07-27-2004, 05:57 PM
To me, it seems like every is stating the obvious. Orton vs Beniot at Summerslam with Orton taking the belt. That seems like the obvious way to go. But what if Benoit wins the match with some interference on the part of Triple H? Triple H screws Orton out of the belt because he thinks that if he doesn't have it, no one else in Evolution will. This leads to a rift inside the group with the other members siding with Randy. This would also lead to an Evolution break-up.

The way that I see it, either way parallels two previous storylines from the 90's-the Rock when he became the Corporate Champion and got so arrogant that the Corporation beat him down and kicked him out, and the storyline with the nWo back in WCW when Hollywood Hogan would sabotage members of his own group so that only he could be champ.

Just trying to think outside of the box....

Y2J World Champ
07-27-2004, 06:00 PM
To me, it seems like every is stating the obvious. Orton vs Beniot at Summerslam with Orton taking the belt. That seems like the obvious way to go. But what if Benoit wins the match with some interference on the part of Triple H? Triple H screws Orton out of the belt because he thinks that if he doesn't have it, no one else in Evolution will. This leads to a rift inside the group with the other members siding with Randy. This would also lead to an Evolution break-up.

Thats exactly what I said (almost) above your post. But whoever wins between Orton or Benoit it would seem like Evolution will be breaking up very soon.

Gravedigger
07-27-2004, 07:43 PM
Nah, if anything like breaking up happens to Evolution, it won't be HHH getting kicked out. If anything HHH and Flair will be on one side with either Orton and Batista together or both of them separate. I think we'll see Flair and HHH together for a long time because HHH never hesitates to talk about how much he likes Flair, admires him, etc. when he's off-camera.

Chazz
07-27-2004, 08:29 PM
Nah, if anything like breaking up happens to Evolution, it won't be HHH getting kicked out. If anything HHH and Flair will be on one side with either Orton and Batista together or both of them separate. I think we'll see Flair and HHH together for a long time because HHH never hesitates to talk about how much he likes Flair, admires him, etc. when he's off-camera.


So..........you saying Flair is HHH's little beatch? :D

I still say Orton doesn't win at SS because I don't want him to, and if he does then.................ah hell if Orton wins at SS then I guess John Kerry will be our next President. :eek:

Y2J World Champ
07-27-2004, 08:30 PM
World Heavyweight Champion Randy Orton....

Well it sounds ok but I wonder if Orton is going to be able to perform in the main event. This is his first main event in which it will be a one on one match. Seeing how Orton/Benoit match will be the main event for Summerslam, I just hope Orton won't choke.

Cripplerlock
07-29-2004, 06:41 AM
Bottomline here is WWE is clearly willing to take a chance with Orton just by having him in a main event match at a major ppv. John Cena who some may consider Orton's Smackdown counterpart was in ppv main event match also last year but that was only a Smackdown ppv. Summerslam is probably the biggest ppv next to WM, so this is going to be a big test for Orton. As Chazz said, is now the right time? I am not so sure it is, but I looking back I cannot say Orton did not progress to this point either. I think Orton definitely has all the tools to be successful. I also think it is a pretty unaminous agreement that Evoluation will be affected in some major way after summerslam. I seriously hope that getting back at Lesnar would not be a determining factor if they decide to have Orton win the belt at SS. However, that does bring a question that if Orton does win how will he be able to handle the top spot at his young age. I think Lesnar found out there can be alot of pressure at the top. Then again, unlike Lesnar, Orton is a third generation wrestler so lets not forget that his wrestling experience/knowledge did not just start in the WWE. Regardless of the winner I am definitely looking foward to this match. It definitely has the potential to be a 5 star match.

While we are on the subject of bad timing. Why the hell are they doing this Diva's search crap now? Way too much time has been wasted on Raw for the Diva contest. That is time that could have been used to build up matches for Summerslam. I am not even going to comment on the Kamala segment. I guess someone really needed the money.

Y2J World Champ
07-29-2004, 02:12 PM
To be honest I really don't know why they are having this Diva Search. Maybe they are just trying to get new divas so that guys would tune in into Raw more often. Too bad no one has ever told the WWE that many fans hate this diva search crap. I just hope they never do this ever again.

Mr. Long
07-29-2004, 02:47 PM
This just further proves my theory that the WWE is just throwin' **** to the wall and seeing what sticks.

Y2J World Champ
07-29-2004, 03:45 PM
Well they threw Eugene at the wall and so far it has been working so the same might happen to Randy Orton.

Cripplerlock
07-30-2004, 04:20 AM
This just further proves my theory that the WWE is just throwin' **** to the wall and seeing what sticks.

Your Theory??? The point about WWE just using trail and error too much without any real plans went well past the theory stage a while back. I think it is pretty much reality.

Cripplerlock
07-30-2004, 04:46 AM
Well they threw Eugene at the wall and so far it has been working so the same might happen to Randy Orton.

True the Eugene storyline is working. In fact I think it is working better than anyone expected. It is almost scary how over he is. I also agree that you can't be innovative without taking some risk and a little trial an error. However, that does not mean you just totally ignore the fans or just fail to use common sense. One of WWE's main problems I see constantly over and over for the last couple of year's is the lack of proper booking for ppvs. It seems too often that matches are put together at the last minute.

However, Randy Orton is an example of what good planning can accomplish. I also think that Orton's IC reign brought a lot of credibility back to the belt, which it needed. Both Cena and Orton have gone from no name developmental stars to top stars on their respective shows. It is no doubt in my mind that they will be top main eventers in the company. Nevertheless, we will still have to wait and see if Summerslam is that time for Orton.

Y2J World Champ
07-30-2004, 02:22 PM
It seems too often that matches are put together at the last minute.

As of recent late this has been true. Remember Judgment Day,the Great American Bash and Vengeance ppv. In alot of there matches weren't even announced until there last smackdown show before the actual ppv.

The Great One
07-30-2004, 03:47 PM
I downloaded Raw, and i was impressed with both the 60 min world title match, and the battle royal. One of the best Raws i have seen in a while :)

Y2J World Champ
07-31-2004, 02:06 AM
As it stands now, Edge will be defending his Intercontinental title in a triple threat match at SummerSlam against both Chris Jericho and Batista.
Credit goes to theturnbuckle.com

If this does happen then my prediction would come true. About a week ago I predicted Edge to defend his title against Y2J and Batista. A few people disagreed with me but it looks like it might happen and I hope it does happen because not only would it help Batista but it would be such a great match that I can't wait till Summerslam.