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Qwaar-Jet
07-26-2004, 02:08 PM
Credit: WrestlingObserver.com Newsletter

John Heidenreich, upon being brought back to WWE, will be feuding with The Undertaker. Many people backstage are beginning to question why Heidenreich is being brought back so soon after his last run on RAW, which was nothing more than subpar.

I simply can't believe this.I'll bet the Deadmna puts him over as well.What has John Heidenriech done to deserve this?

*fumes*

12
07-26-2004, 02:14 PM
Deadman will not put him over, if he didn't put over Cena who is the was the most promising WWE Talent at the time then why put over some well built rookie who is unbeliveably green? He will just be fodder for Taker. It's not surprising considering Heyman is his manager and that Heyman has and ongoing thing with the Deadman. Heindenreich will most liekly be built up as a Brock type monster then be squashed by the Deadman, he is just fodder for the "unstoppable Deadman."

Lover Nuts
07-26-2004, 02:39 PM
Wasn't Heidenreich in a angle where he kept on talking about Little Johnny? I remember on RAW that Trish was talking about it to Jericho.

Y2J World Champ
07-26-2004, 02:41 PM
Wasn't Heidenreich in a angle where he kept on talking about Little Johnny? I remember on RAW that Trish was talking about it to Jericho.

Yes he was. He went from talking about Little Johnny to feuding with the Undertaker in a matter of months.

12
07-26-2004, 02:42 PM
Who was little Johnny? Was it ever revealed or was it just droped midstoryline like so many other feuds?

Lover Nuts
07-26-2004, 02:44 PM
Little Johnny was his diddle-le-doo I think lol :chuckles:

Hopefully I don't think the casual fans remember Heidenreich anyway.

Y2J World Champ
07-26-2004, 02:44 PM
Who was little Johnny? Was it ever revealed or was it just droped midstoryline like so many other feuds?

It was dropped after about two weeks. But I don't know how John Heidenreich will ever get over with the fans. I just hope he won't turn out like Mordecai.

12
07-26-2004, 02:48 PM
It was dropped after about two weeks. But I don't know how John Heidenreich will ever get over with the fans. I just hope he won't turn out like Mordecai.

Thought it was, just didn't know if I missed that Raw or not.

I still have hope for Mordecai, he was just pushed wrong is all. Heidenreich is being built similar to Lesnar methinks, but the difference is Lesnar was good in the ring. He has Heyman as a mouthpeice so I think he'll do OK to be honest.

Mr. Long
07-26-2004, 03:07 PM
The Little Johnny thing lasted longer than two weeks (I think it lasted his entire RAW tenure). The joke was that everyone (with the exception of J.R. I think) thought that Little Johnny was his jimmy. But I get the feeling, if the story played out, we would have found out that Little Johnny was his imaginary friend.

Y2J World Champ
07-26-2004, 03:08 PM
I still have hope for Mordecai, he was just pushed wrong is all. Heidenreich is being built similar to Lesnar methinks, but the difference is Lesnar was good in the ring. He has Heyman as a mouthpeice so I think he'll do OK to be honest.

If Heidenreich does get over with the fans then one of the main reasons why he did is because of Paul Heyman.

Mr. Long
07-26-2004, 03:21 PM
Yeah, It's kinda hard to get over when your last match was a loss to Rico on Sunday Night Heat (sadly enough, I was there to see that match in person).

Y2J World Champ
07-26-2004, 06:08 PM
Well the WWE are hoping everyone forgot about Heidenreich's last gimmick, little johnny.......what the hell is that about.

The Kid
07-26-2004, 07:00 PM
I really don't see why Heidenreich is getting this push. If the WWE wanted to bring in a big guy who's strong as hell than they could have went down to OVW and brought Matt Morgan back up with Heyman. There's even a storyline there. Heyman could say that he was impressed with Morgan when he brought him up at Survivor Series and how he will lead Morgan straight to the top of the WWE. It's much better than Heidenreich ( I wish they gave him an easier name to spell) getting a push.

And BTW, Undertaker will squash him.

Y2J World Champ
07-26-2004, 09:04 PM
And BTW, Undertaker will squash him.

That's probably going to happen seeing how he squashes every single superstar he faces.

Lover Nuts
07-26-2004, 09:07 PM
Well I woulden't really if Taker does squash Heidenreich because I don't see anything in him.

I do have to agree with The Kid that they should brought in Matt Morgan instead considering he was with Paul Heyman a little while ago.

Y2J World Champ
07-26-2004, 09:08 PM
But I guess the WWE loves taking risks and they sure are taking a huge risk with John Heidenreich.

Lover Nuts
07-26-2004, 09:19 PM
But I guess the WWE loves taking risks and they sure are taking a huge risk with John Heidenreich.

There's a huge list of risks that the WWE have took over the years like the HLA angle, Katie Vick, Mae Young giving birth to a hand etc.

Y2J World Champ
07-26-2004, 09:24 PM
There's a huge list of risks that the WWE have took over the years like the HLA angle, Katie Vick, Mae Young giving birth to a hand etc.


And most of them failed miserably. But Heidenreich as Heyman as his manager so I'll just have to wait and see where they will take this. With Heyman at least Heidenreich might get over with the fans, hopefully. If not then this storyline will go down as the risks the WWE have taken and failed.

PS: This is my 800th Post! YAY! :D

Lover Nuts
07-26-2004, 09:26 PM
Well he might just get over with Heyman but I still won't care for the Heidenreich character lol.

Y2J World Champ
07-26-2004, 09:36 PM
Well he might just get over with Heyman but I still won't care for the Heidenreich character lol.

For some reason I feel like if Nathan Jones was still in the WWE that the WWE would have probably put Jones and Heyman together instead of Heidenreich and Heyman.

The Great One
07-26-2004, 09:56 PM
John Heidenreich might be a move that could end in failure or could work. It just depends on how the crowd react to him when he makes it onto Smackdown, and starts the feud with Taker. I can see it might work with Heyman being the manager, i mean least he hasn't forgotten about the feud that he was in with Taker. But i don't know if John was the right man for the job, i saw the promo he did for his debut on Smackdown and he seemed to be a decent enough man, but to put him straight into a feud with Taker is a bad move. IMO i would of had the feud in a couple of months to build him up before placing him into a high profile feud with the Deadman.

The Little Johnny gimmick last only a few months and that was a really bad gimmick. It was that bad i think they had a good enough reason to depush him, he was really green in the ring, and actually messed up a move on i can't remember who, but it almost confirmed he was really green in the ring. I don't know if he is still green at the moment because i have not seen him wrestle yet so i guess i have to say later when i see him wrestle. But if he is green still it can have some what of a bad thing against him, and will wrestle a bad match. If he is still green, i guess he might have to rely on Taker to carry him the rest of the match.

Matt Morgan, he was also green in the ring, but he had a decent thing going for team Lesnar. I don't know why they depushed him because he looked decent enough for me. IMO i would have Heyman get both John and Morgan together to take down the deadman and if one were to fail and instead of depushing him with no word, Heyman could say you are not doing the job i want, and i don't want you with me or near me again. I don't know after that, you could have the person that failed to go with Taker to feud with Heyman for kicking him out, i don't know it seems they could have a backup plan just in case it fails or doesn't meet the expectations they had.

The Great One
07-26-2004, 10:01 PM
For some reason I feel like if Nathan Jones was still in the WWE that the WWE would have probably put Jones and Heyman together instead of Heidenreich and Heyman.

Nathan Jones would of been the right man for the job, he couldn't wrestle a good match and was really green, but he had the intensity, he had the looks for the job. They did plan a feud with Taker but he could not handle the flying, and travelling. You have to think people might have dreams to be a wrestler, but they seem to forget they are flying hours upon hours and is somewhat of a negative thing of being a wrestler. If it wasn't for the flying and travelling, Jones might of been here still, and he might be in the shoes that Heidenreich is in now, but that is all in the past now. I will just have to wait to see what happens now.

Y2J World Champ
07-26-2004, 10:35 PM
Well I think they are giving him this push because of his strength. I mean he was a former-NFL player (was a members of the Redskins when they won the superbowl) and some of the NFL players that went to the wrestling business did pretty good for themselves. So Heidenreich for sure has the strength, might have the speed but don't know about his wrestling skills. I believe he only had 5 matches on Raw that were aired on tv. Not too sure about that. Anyway, I hope he's there on Smackdown so I can see what will the WWE do with him heading into Summerslam.