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Mac Daddy
07-23-2004, 03:04 PM
Well for the first time in like two months, Smackdown was better than Raw. I enjoyed this week’s Smackdown from start to finish and I’m happy to see that we have a somewhat stable main-event scene with JBL, Undertaker, Kurt Angle, and Eddie Guerrero. It’s safe to say I’m no longer clamoring for a Big Show return now.


The show starts off with GM Kurt coming out in a wheelchair, being pushed by Luther Reigns. I expected Angle to jump out of the chair once getting to the ring and declare that he never was hurt from the start. But instead, Kurt claimed that his therapist has told him that he’s even more hurt after his miraculous, but short Jesus-like scale of 15-foot cage to cost Guerrero the title a week ago. Kurt went on to say that tonight Eddie Guerrero would have to beg for his job tonight, and he ordered Tony Chimel to give an example. Angle charged that Chimel was a liar since he announced “the Winner of this match and still WWE Champion … Eddie Guerrero” months ago at WrestleMania XX, even thought Eddie cheated to win. Chimel did some pathetic groveling, but Kurt fired him anyhow.


The first match of the night if Chavo Guerrero vs. Jamie Noble vs. Spike, for the #1 contendership of the Cruiserweight title. This match was very entertaining and I thought all three of these men looked on top of their game. The crowd was rather spotty and inconsistent in their cheers and involvement, but I enjoyed the match anyway. In the end, Spike won. I was disappointed in this decision. After last week’s show, I thought things were finally picking up for both Spike and Jamie Noble, but it turns out Spike is the only that will be reaping the fruits of airtime by facing Mysterio next week and being picked on by his big brothers.


Backstage, Miss Jackie, Sable, Torrie Wilson, and Dawn Marie were all complaining to Kurt Angle that they felt underutilized on SD. I can’t help but think male superstars like Hardcore Holly, Billy Gunn, Shannon Moore, and RVD were laughing their asses at the divas. No, not because of the pathetic acting, but because it anyone on the show were being mishandled but deserved better, it was these guys I just named, and probably even more.


Billy Kidman vs. Bubba Ray Dudley was the next match. This was a nice match, but was pretty slow. I can’t say that Billy Kidman was using any of his cruiserweight style quickness and high-flying moves that the fans would find most interesting. I wish there was some way the WWE would build tag feuds, instead of switching the participants up in singles matches until the PPV. But oh, well. Dudley picked up the win here and was very effective IMO.


Backstage, Funaki interviews Angle. In this segment, Angle hands Booker T the U.S. title belt and tells him that Booker isn’t officially the champion yet, but it will be officially when SD goes off the air. Angle then berates Funaki over his speech and criticism over Angle’s decision and remarks, “You call yourself a broadcast journalist? You can’t even say ‘broadcast journalist’,” or words to that effect. Angle fired Funaki.


JBL takes on some wrestling jobber from Philly, and if the jobber wins, he faces JBL at Summerslam for the title. JBL’s wrestling abilities have really gone in the ****ter. Call me crazy, but I could swear I enjoyed JBL’s work when he was Bradshaw of the APA. Now he’s just annoying and boring in the ring. On a sidenote, JBL isn’t over at all in Philadelphia. Anyway, after the squash match (hey, every credible champion has to have one of these, right?) JBL proclaims that he’s going to Summerslam to watch since he has no opponent and no one backstage is worthy. Surprisingly enough (yeah right – thanks newsites with your unholy temptation), The Undertaker comes out. JBL shoots his mouth for a second and Undertaker chokeslams JBL. Undertaker then says, “You … Me … Summerslam.” If it’s one thing I hate about Deadman ‘Taker, it’s the dialogue. I miss the Biker ‘Taker that kicked ass both on the mic and in the ring. But those days are over.


When SD returns, the ladies all go to the ring for their fatal-four way Lingerie match that Angle had made after the diva’s approached him with their concerns about being on the show more often. The ladies only take their robes off before Angle comes out, berates the women, and fires them. I gave Mr. Angle unwavering support in doing so. Go Kurt! This makes six people Angle’s fired so far and I can smell a Vince or Linda appearance at this point.


D-Von vs. Rey Mysterio. This match okay I guess. I see D-Von trying to freshen up, but for the most parts, he’s stale. Rey Mysterio did the best he could with what was handed to him. A funny spot was Bubba tripping up Rey when he was on his way to the ropes for the 619. This week, Bubba was still the bully and Mysterio was his victim, getting tripped on the playground. Mysterio eventually won after Kidman and London (I forgot to mention earlier, but these guys aren’t over a lick. When they came out for Kidman’s match you could hear the announcers, the name bar, and their music clear as a bell. The arena might as well have been empty) took out Bubba Ray.


John Cena vs. Luther Reigns in the main-event. If it’s one thing that Raw and SD had in common, it’s a lackluster main-event. But thankfully, this one lasted only four minutes. Booker T came out and attempted to cost Cena the match, but he ended up hitting Reigns with the U.S. belt and Cena scored the pinfall.


In the closing segment, GM Angle came down, got into the ring and said it was time for Eddie Guerrero to beg for his job. Eddie doesn’t come out but the WWE Chairman (told you) does. Vince comes out with his hilarious, pompous strut and he went about firing Angle in a realistic and creative way. See, I expected for Vince to come down and claim that Angle was abusing his authority, which the pot calling the kettle black. I mean, we’re talking about a man that made an employee kiss his ass and choked out his own daughter on PPV. But instead Vince said he didn’t believe Kurt was hurt and for that reason, he’s pissed. McMahon claims that he would have been nominated for a humanitarian award, because he a hired a handicap, Kurt Angle. Since Kurt really isn’t hurt, though he claims to be, McMahon says his nomination has been revoked. Man that was gold. That’s the creative that once existed in the WWE; right there. But anyway, Vince proves Kurt isn’t hurt by snatching his crutch and chasing him around the ring like he was Elmer Fudd and Kurt was Bugs Bunny. Vince proved his point and then announced the second match that had been made that night: Kurt Angle vs. Eddie Guerrero at Summerslam. Then Guerrero came down and gave McMahon a ride to the back with nice, funny spots of Vince bouncing up and down in the low-rider. Angle’s distressed.


Smackdown was right on target. Two matches have been announced for Summerslam: Angle vs. Guerrero and ‘Taker vs. JBL for the title. You can also assume that Booker and Cena will have a match for the U.S. title (although it’ll probably be the vacant title since Kurt was fired before the show went off the air and was unable to officially “hand” Booker the championship). Compare that to Raw and tell me I’m wrong in thinking that the building for the SD side of Summerslam will be much better than the Raw side. But I have drawn a conclusion: The WWE needs to cut back on the PPVs. Yes, indeedy. It’s not impossible for them to run efficiently with 12 shows per year with 4 weeks in between, but they’ve obviously had some problems with doing so. So, instead they need to cut back the shows and/or have at least 6 weeks between the PPVs.


I’d give SD a … 7.5/10. I’m pretty sure that next week the show will rise to that 8/10.

Y2J World Champ
07-23-2004, 03:12 PM
You can also assume that Booker and Cena will have a match for the U.S. title (although it’ll probably be the vacant title since Kurt was fired before the show went off the air and was unable to officially “hand” Booker the championship).

Well I've heard that Booker T was going to face John Cena AND Rob Van Dam in a triple thread match for the United States Title.

Mac Daddy
07-23-2004, 03:15 PM
Well I've heard that Booker T was going to face John Cena AND Rob Van Dam in a triple thread match for the United States Title.


I haven't read anything about that but I have no reason to doubt it. But for some reason, I felt that RVD wouldn't be on the card and instead, he'd go on to face Booker at SD's next exclusive PPV, Unforgiven. But that was just my own bogus belief.

Y2J World Champ
07-23-2004, 03:41 PM
Well what I want to know is what will the WWE do with Rene Dupree and Kenzo Suzuki for Summerslam? I don't really care about Kenzo but what will Dupree do at Summerslam if RVD did face Booker T and Cena at SS for the United States Championship Belt.

Mr. Long
07-23-2004, 03:54 PM
It might a Triple Threat with RVD vs. Kenzo vs. Dupree for the #1 Contendership to the US Title.

Isn't the plan for John Cena to come out with his own US Title, and then at Summerslam, have it be Booker T vs. John Cena in a unification match?

Mac Daddy
07-23-2004, 03:56 PM
Well what I want to know is what will the WWE do with Rene Dupree and Kenzo Suzuki for Summerslam? I don't really care about Kenzo but what will Dupree do at Summerslam if RVD did face Booker T and Cena at SS for the United States Championship Belt.


Fire him. *dusts hands*


You know it's really a shame. I love the Kenzo character like I loved the John Bradshaw Layfield character. I just hated the guys that personified these gimmicks, because they were limited in the ring. But I've come to realize that Kenzo is even more talentless and boring in the ring than John Layfield.


If you haven't figured it, I was kidding when I said the WWE would fire Kenzo. Of course they're not. But I believe that Kenzo will not be on the Summerslam card and rightfully so. Kenzo Suzuki does not need to be jumping into the U.S. title picture when he's only beaten Billy Gunn. *I'm asking everyone to reframe from bringing up the ironic case of JBL. I know the similarites and everyone else does. I'm just sick of hearing it. Aren't you?

Mac Daddy
07-23-2004, 03:58 PM
Isn't the plan for John Cena to come out with his own US Title, and then at Summerslam,


Oh, dear Jesus. The WWE has really gotten into the business of recycling storylines, haven't they? I wonder if Cena's belt will have a smoking skull? :whatevera Hell, why don't Cena just change his name to "Stone Cold" Steve Cena for COL? :thumsdown

Y2J World Champ
07-23-2004, 03:59 PM
If you haven't figured it, I was kidding when I said the WWE would fire Kenzo. Of course they're not. But I believe that Kenzo will not be on the Summerslam card and rightfully so. Kenzo Suzuki does not need to be jumping into the U.S. title picture when he's only beaten Billy Gunn. *I'm askig everyone to reframe from bringing up the ironic case of JBL. I know the similarites and everyone else does. I'm just sick of hearing it. Aren't you?

Well I'm starting to get sick of it.

But they can always drop Kenzo Suzuki just like they dropped Mordecai.

Mac Daddy
07-23-2004, 04:02 PM
But they can always drop Kenzo Suzuki just like they dropped Mordecai.


I doubt they're going to strike out for the second time. Remember, three strikes and then Vince has to start doing smart things like not wasting precious talent. God knows we wouldn't want that to happen. :rolleyes:

Peoples King
07-23-2004, 04:38 PM
Oh, dear Jesus. The WWE has really gotten into the business of recycling storylines, haven't they? I wonder if Cena's belt will have a smoking skull? :whatevera Hell, why don't Cena just change his name to "Stone Cold" Steve Cena for COL? :thumsdown

But Mac Deefuff you have to remember that even that was recycled to a degree. HBK brought in his own IC title belt in the lead up to WrestleMania X. Hmmmmmm and the circle continues.

Mac Daddy
07-23-2004, 04:50 PM
But Mac Deefuff you have to remember that even that was recycled to a degree. HBK brought in his own IC title belt in the lead up to WrestleMania X. Hmmmmmm and the circle continues.


*Looks at PK with pity and disgust and sneers: ... You're old. :headshake


Really? I wasn't watching wrestling waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back then so I guess you're right. Thanks for the info, gramps.

Peoples King
07-23-2004, 05:01 PM
That led to the Razor Ramone/Shawn Michaels Ladder Match at WrestleMania X. You know I feel old now.... even though I am mucho's young.

*Runs out the door crying. Before leaving grabs his cardigen from the coat hanger*

Mac Daddy
07-23-2004, 05:06 PM
That led to the Razor Ramone/Shawn Michaels Ladder Match at WrestleMania X. You know I feel old now.... even though I am mucho's young.

*Runs out the door crying. Before leaving grabs his cardigen from the coat hanger*


"Razor Ramone?" Pffft. Don't go all Reagan on us now. It's Ramon ... foolish, old man.


Seriously though, that answers a question I've had a long time. I remember watching that ladder match in the From the Vault segment on Excess. The match was for the "Undisputed Intercontinental" title and I couldn't figure out for the life of me what that meant. Guess I do now.

Peoples King
07-23-2004, 05:12 PM
"For too long there have been two champions and two belts. This Sunday, WrestleMania X. The Bad Guy take all the gold!"

Anyway, Im looking foreward to seeing Smackdown! this week. I'll have to decide whether to watch it tomorrow morning or tomorrow night. Oh decisions, decisions.

Mac Daddy
07-23-2004, 05:19 PM
"For too long there have been two champions and two belts. This Sunday, WrestleMania X. The Bad Guy take all the gold!"

Imitates Austin Powers trying to hold back saying ............... OLD! OLD! OLD! ... OLDEY! OLD!



Anyway, Im looking foreward to seeing Smackdown! this week. I'll have to decide whether to watch it tomorrow morning or tomorrow night. Oh decisions, decisions.

My God, PK. Make sure you make the RIGHT decision. Heaven knows the fate of all mankind rests upon your shoulders ... your decision.


Seriously though, watch it. It was much better than Raw this week.

Y2J World Champ
07-23-2004, 05:38 PM
Seriously though, watch it. It was much better than Raw this week.

For the first time in a long time Smackdown "WAS" better than Raw. Why can't Raw and Smackdown both become good shows in the same week. Why why why.

Superman33
07-23-2004, 07:39 PM
I wonder what Cena's new US Title is gonna look like. It'll probably have the throwback "W" on it.

Mac Daddy
07-23-2004, 07:42 PM
I wonder what Cena's new US Title is gonna look like. It'll probably have the throwback "W" on it.


It'll also probably have Cena's annoying catchphrases on the back. And instead of having a plate for his name, it'll probably have interchangeable plates with ass-kissing phrases on them for whichever city Cena's in.


John Cena has cheesed out.
John Cena sucks.

Mr. Business
07-25-2004, 04:22 AM
I completly agree with Mac Daddy on the John Cena subject. I think that he is so stale, and so boring. At first, I remember that I was loving the John Cena gimmick, he was the main reason I watched SmackDown, of course this was way back in July of 2003. I remember watching Kurt Angle in a rap battle with Cena, I remember watching Cena "punk out" Vince McMahon. But like Eugene, the WWE overused Cena way to much.

Now, Cena makes me want to change the channel. His promos are just horrible when he doesn't rap (especially the Booker T one where he explained why Booker had that look on his face when he did the Spinaroonie. That promo was horrible), and even when he does, his rap's aren't that good anymore. All Cena does now is kiss the crowds ass, and give out his cheesy catchphrases.

Not to mention, in the ring, he's decent at best. The only John Cena match that impressed me was his Kurt Angle match back in No Mercy 2003, but then again the match was with Kurt Angle.

I know that there a lot of John Cena fans out there, but I just had to get that off my chest.

Chazz
07-26-2004, 01:11 PM
I mentioned in another thread that Raw and Smackdown were flip-flopping positions again. For some strange reason, these shows can never be good at the same time. Raw had been the better show up until about the middle of June. Now, Raw has lost its' luster and is just flat out boring. The reason's vary, but I'll give you a few:

1. HHH- has remained the focus of Raw even though he isn't the champ. This has made Benoit's title run seem insignificant.

2. Raw Diva search- I think the fans have voiced there opinions of this already, cause for two solid weeks the crowd has started a boring chant during these segments.

3. Storylines- Raw had done a great job with there storylines this year, but now they are doing spot booking that is killing the show.

Smackdown has taken its' time in giving us new feuds and new characters. I never would've thought that Eddie Guererro would be as big as he is now, but I sure am glad that he is. I know that none of us thought that JBL would be the WWE Champion, but I actually like that he is. He may not be okay in the ring, but having him with the belt really is fun for me to watch, and I feel he has done a good job being the champ.

Smackdown was solid this past Thursday, and already Smackdown is doing more to promote SummerSlam. Well, more than Raw has because Raw has yet to make any matches official. I really believe that the reason why Smackdown is thriving is because it is fresh. What I mean is, Smackdown is giving us new characters and is giving us new feuds for these characters. SD tag team scene is way better than Raw's, and the mid-card level is really solid. The US title has been focused alot and with guys like Booker, Cena and Dupree chasing after it, it makes the belt look important. The IC title on Raw doesn't have this same significance. The one complaint I have about Smackdown is the Cruiserweight division. I honestly feel that Vince is trying to kill it. Truth is, the fans love these guys, and if Vince would just give them more tv time on Smackdown, I feel the ratings would go up for the show.

Now, about Cena's character. Well, the fans still pop huge for him when he comes out, but I have to agree that his character is bland. If Cena would revert back to his character that he had going into Survivor Series, I think we would see the second coming of Stone Cold. Cena has the potential to be that big.........even bigger than Hunter. :D

12
07-26-2004, 01:48 PM
Smackdown has taken its' time in giving us new feuds and new characters. I never would've thought that Eddie Guererro would be as big as he is now, but I sure am glad that he is. I know that none of us thought that JBL would be the WWE Champion, but I actually like that he is. He may not be okay in the ring, but having him with the belt really is fun for me to watch, and I feel he has done a good job being the champ.

The one complaint I have about Smackdown is the Cruiserweight division. I honestly feel that Vince is trying to kill it. Truth is, the fans love these guys, and if Vince would just give them more tv time on Smackdown, I feel the ratings would go up for the show.


I was extremley apprehensive about a JBL title reign but so far he has proved me wrong, he has actually been a breath of fresh air and one of the reasons Smackdown seems to be on the up, he has proved a lot of people wrong.

I think the cruiserweight divison is actually headed in the right direction, there seems to be serious contension making the title seem more important. Rey-Rey is no longer the main attraction in the divison becuase it seems a lot of the cruisers are coming into their own. Noble has had a good run recently and a lot more exposure has been given to some of the other cruisers aswell, the 6man tag for example.
Even though Spike is the number one contender(bad move IMO), I think there are signs that the cruisers are beoming a more improtant part of SD. The emphasis has been on the actual matches, not the crappy joke storylines.