I need some help ***WARNING, involves my love life***

[Mr. Long]

Here's my situation:

There is this girl that I'm madly in love with, Savannah (she is also the inspiration for uCw's Vannah). She is my best friend. But one of our friends, Kyle, is also head over heels in love her. Up until last week, we all worked at the same place (last week Kyle got fired). Here's where it gets really bad. About 4 months ago, Savannah's boyfriend died (R.I.P. Allan). About one month ago, Savannah found out that Kyle likes her. This prompted me to tell Savannah how I feel about her. A couple of weeks ago, a wrote Savannah the card that told her how a really feel about her (to tell her that it's more than a crush). She said the card was sweet, but she she said she "isn't ready" (which is perfectly understandable). I asked Savannah to not tell Kyle about the card, but she accidentally did. Now Kyle is really pissed (he kinda gave me the impression that he wants to grab me by the ears and peel me like a bananna) that I tried to keep it a secret. He has even gone so far as to tell me to "be afraid," and that if I try anything with Savannah, like ask her out (which I plan to do), or do something like the card again (which I already have), he will come after me. Now at first, I was afraid of Kyle, but now I'm at the point where I could give a **** less if he beats me up or not (I would take a beating a day from him if I could be with Savannah). Besides, if he beats me up, Savannah will never speak to him again (I get the feeling that won't stop him though). We both realize we don't have a shot with her anytime soon, but Kyle wants it so noone is in his way once he does have a shot. I realized that this situation was going to destroy my friendship with Kyle, and i have no problem with that. I really am in love with Savannah, and I would do anything to be with her, and if that means losing Kyle as a friend, so be it.

I would really appreciate some advice from you guys. Because, right now, the only choices I can come up with are:

1. Ask Savannah out (as friends), and hope Kyle doesn't shoot me.
2. Go on Jerry Springer and hope for the best.

[Y2J World Champ]

Well if I were in your shoes I will talk to your friend and confront him. I will tell him that "I like her and there's nothing you can do about it". If he says he's going to beat you up, well fight back and kick his ass, if he says he's going to kill you then call the cops and have his ass sent in jail where he'll get rape, lol. But anyways tell the guy you like her. Because if you really like her it wouldn't matter if someone else says "if you ask her out I will beat you up". So I would tell your friend how you feel about her and then talk to the girl, talk about how she feels about this, talk to her about how she feels about your friend, just talk, talking can help you alot with girls especially if you listen to them. After you get that done, make a move on her and hopefully she will respond.

But anyways, you should really be talking to your family and friends before you come here.

[The True Game]

THe second one, the one that involes bald security guys. I can't give you much advice but well I can see where you're coming from, you love her and he likes her. I hate to play devil's avdicate, but fight 'Kyle'. It's the only way...Then again, you may not need to fight, you could just lay there andlet him hammer you. Whoa, that didn't sound right...

[Y2J World Champ]

I hope you do know that fighting doesn't solve everything. It only gives you a black eye and so much pain in the body.

And I have been in the same situation where there was still girl I liked but she liked someone else, and the guy she liked told me all he wanted to do was **** her. Well in a year she gave up on him (good thing she never went out with him) and now she's with me and I'm having a great time with her, if you know what I mean, heh heh heh...............heh.

[The True Game]

Wait, so now fighting DOESN'T solve everything?! Man that sucks! I've always thought that was how you solved everything, toaster doesn't work, FIGHT IT, Close got wet in the pool, Beat 'em 'till they cry! Why doesn't it solve all our problems? WHY!?!

[Mr. Long]

Oh trust me, if he tries to fight me, I'll defiantely run away.

And Y2J, I have talked to my friends and family. My friend told me to lay off. My Dad has been nothing but negative. I asked for you guys' advice because I really respect your opinions.

I probably will talk to Kyle. But if he tries to keep me from being with Savannah, I don't know what I'll do.

And yes True, that did not sound right.

[Y2J World Champ]

If he tries to keep you away from her then talk to her and ask her how she feels about both of you guys, try to be the best of friend with her, question, how long does she know and how long does she know your friend, if she knows you longer than him then you have a better chance.

But just tell the guy that it is her decision to make and not his. If he continues it, then the only thing reasonable to do is to kick his ass. If he continues, get some friends and all of you take turns kicking his ass until he gives up.

[The True Game]

Now tell me why fighting doesn't work in this situation?

[Y2J World Champ]

Ok lets say they do fight. And after the fight he continues to keep him away from her, then they have to fight again and this would continue over and over until someone is.....................dead.

[Superman33]

Damn it! I read the warning in the title, but i still got sucked in!

JK pal

I must say this is one hell of a situation you've gotten yourself in. But I agree with you man, if love means losing friends then so be it. Not many people get the chance at love, so you should do what you gotta do to be with her.

[Dreamer]

Go for it man and if your friend tries to get in the way then he really wasn't your friend in the first place.

[Mr. Long]

Both Kyle & I have know her the same amount of time, because we met her threw our job.

Also, I won't fight Kyle. Because if I do, Savannah will never speak to me again. Plus he's about 50 heavier than me. Plus every fight I've ever been in, I got my ass kicked.

I don't know how she feels about me, but I do know she doesn't like Kyle in that way.

I'll probably just ask her how she feels about me. If she likes me in that way, I'll probably ask her out and hope for the best.

In some ways, I almost want Kyle to beat me up, just so I can get it out of the way.

[Dreamer]

Both Kyle & I have know her the same amount of time, because we met her threw our job.

Also, I won't fight Kyle. Because if I do, Savannah will never speak to me again. Plus he's about 50 heavier than me. Plus every fight I've ever been in, I got my ass kicked.

I don't know how she feels about me, but I do know she doesn't like Kyle in that way.

I'll probably just ask her how she feels about me. If she likes me in that way, I'll probably ask her out and hope for the best.

In some ways, I almost want Kyle to beat me up, just so I can get it out of the way.

If he is going to beat you up then let him because wounds heal, but do not show him any fear.

[Y2J World Champ]

Well thats why the world created bats. Just walk up to him with a bat and if he says he wants to fight you then........

WACK!

Hit him with the bat. If the girl asks you if you hit him just denie it. lol

But seriously ask her, ask her how you feel and ask her how she feels about you. If she says its not time or if she doesn't feel that way about you then just continue being as best as friend as you could to her. And sooner or later she'll begin to like you, it worked for me so it should work for you.

[Cripplerlock]

The typical teenage love triangle. Two friends like the same girl. If only I had a nickle for everytime this situation has come up. First thing first. You need to make sure you keep a level head because in the worse case senerio you could ruin the relationship with both your friend Kyle and possible girlfriend Savannah. You want to talk to her as a friend and to her how you feel without pouring out all your emotions. Let here know it is her decision to make. If in the future she decides to go out with you, great. At that point the decision has been made and Kyle has nothing to say about it. However, if she decides to go out with Kyle you will have to live with that even though your heart will feel crushed, broken, steamrolled, destroyed, etc. However life goes on. Even though I guarantee that you won't see this now, things will get better no matter what happens. However, I think you have a stronger chance because you are acting maturely, while your friend seems to have gone postal with jealously. Jealously is a given in these situations. However you still might be able to reason with him. Regardless, you will have to stand up to him because you can't run forever and you can't let him control you. I am not saying fighting is the answer because it sounds like that may not go well for you. That is a last resort thing and I am definitely not saying be a human punching bag either. However, again as Y2J said, your best bet is to reason with her. Well if the worse happens, it was nice having you on this board.

[The_Wolf]

well she said she " wasnt ready " so maybe thats just another term for she isnt interested, do you think you would have wrote the letter to her if she hadnt found out that kyle liked her? im just saying why didnt you tell her how you felt before and all this might have been avoided. but hey if she isnt interested in either of you why bother fighting over her, sure you love her and all but maybe you just havent gone out and met other girls, cause there sure is plenty of fish in the sea.

[The Great One]

Oh trust me, if he tries to fight me, I'll defiantely run away.

If he hits you hit him back, don't run away, he started the fight, so you don't have to worry about him saying you hit him and all that. But i would end the friendship, don't talk him again, he is no friend if he treats you this way.

[Peoples King]

*Cracks knuckles* They dont call me Agoney King for nuthin you know.No no no, Im not going to rip into you. Phew that was close. Okay let me see......

Vannah is friends with you and Kyle. Kyle likes her and you like her. He put his feelings out there and you did the same. He is 50lbs heavier then you and certainly seems to be of the tool variety i.e kicking the **** out of you for how you feel. Vannah (Always be Vannah to me ;) ) isnt ready because her last boyfriend died and that obviously is going to have a huge affect on her. Okay thats it, right......

First off if I were you I would respect Vannahs feelings and not push for a relationship to start. Obviously you like this girl and want to have something more then a good friendship but I dont think you should sacrifice it. If something happens it happens, if it doesnt it doesnt. Just be her friend and let her take as much time as she needs.

If Kyle does hit you, do NOT run away. Never back down to someone who obviously has no sense. Dont give Kyle the satisfaction of knowing that you are afraid of him. He hits you, you hit back as hard as you can. You may get the tar beaten out of you but at least you would have stood up for yourself.

Whatever happens in this, I think you have to respect Vannah. Something may happen in time but if it doesnt you still have her friendship and you should cherish that.

BTW, Im a cynical little bastard and dont believe that you truely love this girl. You may love her as a friend but teenagers more then not suffer from infatuation. Funny hearing that from another teenager but its the truth.

[The_Wolf]

BTW, Im a cynical little bastard and dont believe that you truely love this girl. You may love her as a friend but teenagers more then not suffer from infatuation. Funny hearing that from another teenager but its the truth.

yeah PK but how do you know weather its real or not?

[Y2J World Champ]

Because most of the time it is not real. Just look at Jerry Springer, Maury, Ricky Lake and so and so on. If you see any of those shows 90% of the time it is about a guy or a girl who loves this person but that person cheated and they find out they never really loved him/her, well I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.

[Mr. Long]

BTW Y2J, Kyle is the one who owns a bat, he keeps it in the trunk of his car. Also the bat has a smiley face carved into it. But I have a metal bat.

Also, I think I'm gonna ask Savannah how she feels about me today. I'll give you a PBP.

Also, do you think that Savannah telling that I had more balls than him for telling her how I feel (she had to ask him how he feels about her), is what got Kyle really P.O.'ed

[Lover Nuts]

*Cracks knuckles* They dont call me Agoney King for nuthin you know.No no no, Im not going to rip into you. Phew that was close. Okay let me see......

Vannah is friends with you and Kyle. Kyle likes her and you like her. He put his feelings out there and you did the same. He is 50lbs heavier then you and certainly seems to be of the tool variety i.e kicking the **** out of you for how you feel. Vannah (Always be Vannah to me ;) ) isnt ready because her last boyfriend died and that obviously is going to have a huge affect on her. Okay thats it, right......

First off if I were you I would respect Vannahs feelings and not push for a relationship to start. Obviously you like this girl and want to have something more then a good friendship but I dont think you should sacrifice it. If something happens it happens, if it doesnt it doesnt. Just be her friend and let her take as much time as she needs.

If Kyle does hit you, do NOT run away. Never back down to someone who obviously has no sense. Dont give Kyle the satisfaction of knowing that you are afraid of him. He hits you, you hit back as hard as you can. You may get the tar beaten out of you but at least you would have stood up for yourself.

Whatever happens in this, I think you have to respect Vannah. Something may happen in time but if it doesnt you still have her friendship and you should cherish that.

BTW, Im a cynical little bastard and dont believe that you truely love this girl. You may love her as a friend but teenagers more then not suffer from infatuation. Funny hearing that from another teenager but its the truth.

*Puts PK over simply because I can*

Seriously though, if Kyle does lay a finger on you then you should knock him out. Don't back down and give him what he wants.

Also you might want to give Vannah some time to get over the death of her ex boyfriend.

Hope everything works the best for you. :winkok:

[Mr. Long]

I was going to ask her how she feels about me today, but for some reason, she was at the hospital (hopefully she wasn't the one who was hospitalized), I'm gonna call her tommorow and find out why she was there. I'll probably wait a week or so to ask her how she feels about me.

Well, today when I went to Publix (the store where I work). One of Kyle and mine's friends told me that Kyle is giving up on going out with Savannah. Part of me thinks that's it's a load of bull****. But the other part of me thinks that it might be true. If it is true, that's great, but it probably isn't.

[Y2J World Champ]

Well why not ask Kyle? It may be true or it may be a lie so that you won't try to stop him or something like that. Anyway so far it seems you aren't having that much trouble with Kyle but still talk to the guy and make sure its true.

[Mr. Long]

Honestly I think I just won't talk to Kyle. He seems to like bs'ing me. Like a few days ago, he gave me a message threw a friend to be afraid. And a hour he showed up at work and was like high fiving me and was like "Hey wassup man?!" So I don't know what to believe.

[Y2J World Champ]

How do you know that friend who gave you the message from Kyle was telling the truth? How do you know that friend wasn't just lying to you just so you and Kyle would fight?

[Mr. Long]

I don't think he would want us to fight, he's a good friend to both of us, and he doesn't enjoy seeing me and Kyle being torn apart over this situation.

Uh well, hopefully this whole thing will be over soon, and hopefully this situation will end up with me having a girlfriend eventually (probably not though).

[Y2J World Champ]

Uh well, hopefully this whole thing will be over soon, and hopefully this situation will end up with me having a girlfriend eventually (probably not though).

Well it wouldn't hurt to try to be her boyfriend. But why don't you ask her out? If she says if your asking her out as a date you just say you want to hang out with her. So take her somewhere with just you two and talk to the girl. That should work.

[The Great One]

If i was you, i would ask your friend and see where he stands, if he tells you what your other friend told you then it is true, but if he comes out with a different answer then the other friend was bull****ting you. If he did, i would question him to why he gave you a pack of lies, because Y2J might be right, he might be trying to stir it up a little, pour fuel on the fire in other words. If i was you, i would just try and get the girl, if Kyle hits you or anything then she won't speak with him again, so if things go wrong with you and her, Kyle might not be able to get the chance later on in life, because of the way he treated you. I am not saying something is going to happen with you and her, but if something does, he has not got the chance to jump in because he lost the chance by hitting you. I doubt she would forgive him for what he does to you. But you don't know, girls are very hard to work out sometimes.

[Mr. Long]

I'll probably just ask her out to the movies (I've been meaning to see Anchorman anyway), then maybe we'll hang out or get something to eat. Actually, we probably shouldn't go out to eat, because I'd probably just take her to Waffle House (yes Waffle House, the world's most romantic restaurant) :winkok:.

Seriously though, I think I will ask her out (as friends) by next week. And if Kyle doesn't like it, well that's just tough ****.

I'll will make a point that it is completely up to her if she wants to take our friendship to that "next level." I don't want to make it seem like I'm pressuring her into a relationship (because I'm not), because you know, that's just not something you do to a girl who's boyfriend was killed 4 months ago.

Honestly, if she hadn't found out that Kyle likes her, I probably wouldn't have told her for a another good few months.

[Duff]

you WILL ruin this friendship if you try to be anything more than friends with her. She told you not very long ago she wasnt ready, so you try again two weeks later? Seriously, catch a grip of yourself. This girl has been through a lot and needs you as a friend she can rely on, not as someone who is trying to fill, what must be, a huge void in her life. Stay friends and keep your feelings to yourself, for her sake. Yeah, it will be hard but its better to have her as a friend than to not have her at all

[Y2J World Champ]

you WILL ruin this friendship if you try to be anything more than friends with her. She told you not very long ago she wasnt ready, so you try again two weeks later? Seriously, catch a grip of yourself. This girl has been through a lot and needs you as a friend she can rely on, not as someone who is trying to fill, what must be, a huge void in her life. Stay friends and keep your feelings to yourself, for her sake. Yeah, it will be hard but its better to have her as a friend than to not have her at all

Exactly and after about a couple of months then you can go ahead and ask her out or something like that.

[Mr. Long]

I'm not going to try to become her ...boyfriend, I want her to decide if she wants to take our ...friendship to that "next level." BTW, should I tell her that it's up to her?

I'll probably ask her in a few days if she wants to go see a movie or something.

[Y2J World Champ]

I'll probably ask her in a few days if she wants to go see a movie or something.

Thats good but it would be better IMO if you spend a day with her going to different places having fun between you two and then when the day is over you tell her how you feel about her and that it is up to her and that you are not going to force her to decide right away if she says she'll think about it.

[Duff]

Are both of you thick? She has already made it clear she isn't interesrted/ready. There is no "next level" after friendship. It's either friends or boyfriend/girlfriend. Don't tell this girl how you feel for at least six months to a year. She has to be the one to decide when she's ready, she doesnt need to be coerced by you, or anyone else for that matter. At the end of the day, it's your call, but if you do as you and Y2J have said in this thread, she will lose any respect she may have for you. No matter how decent you are, you aint Alan, and you never will be. Let her move on in her own time. You may not be her next boyfriend, you may never be her boyfriend, but that's for her to decide. She knows how you feel, you've already told her twice. If she ever decides to look at you as anything other than a friend, then that's great. If she doesn't then you have to decide if you can just be friends or else you have to sever all ties

[The_Wolf]

Exactly and after about a couple of months then you can go ahead and ask her out or something like that.

lol i seriously cant believe you post that..do you think shes just gonna get over what has happened to her bf within the next 2 months? i cant imagine what it would be like if my gf died and some girl was asking me out, im sure it would be extremely annoying and frustrating

[Y2J World Champ]

lol i seriously cant believe you post that..do you think shes just gonna get over what has happened to her bf within the next 2 months? i cant imagine what it would be like if my gf died and some girl was asking me out, im sure it would be extremely annoying and frustrating

Ok let me rephrase that. In a year....................but I don't know if WWFUSA4Ever would want to wait a year.

[Mr. Long]

I'm gonna ask her out to the movies in a few days. And if/when we go, I'll talk to her about this whole situation (no offense but I'll probably leave out the part about asking my WrestlePower friends for advice). And I'll tell her that it's her choice and that I'm not trying to pressure her into a relationship.

[Y2J World Champ]

I'm gonna ask her out to the movies in a few days. And if/when we go, I'll talk to her about this whole situation (no offense but I'll probably leave out the part about asking my WrestlePower friends for advice). And I'll tell her that it's her choice and that I'm not trying to pressure her into a relationship.

Don't forget not to pressure her or she might hate you. Go to the beach with her as well (if there is one nearby), for some reason girls always loving walking in the beach with a guy :D . And all I can say is good luck.

[Mr. Long]

That's a damn good idea. Luckily, I live less than 5 minutes away from the beach.

[Y2J World Champ]

Luckily, I live less than 5 minutes away from the beach.

Thats perfect. Now if you ask her out in a date and she accepts, give her a rose when you go to pick her up, give her something that you know she would love. Take her to the movies and then to the beach, have a good talk with her at the beach and if your lucky..........well I shouldn't tell you what would come next. :D

[Dreamer]

I wish I had a beach here but I live in the midwest :thumsdown

Wait we have a little beach here by our lake known as Lake Manawa :).... ahhh what am I thinking it sucks :crying:

But anyway good luck man :winkok:

[Y2J World Champ]

Wait we have a little beach here by our lake known as Lake Manawa .... ahhh what am I thinking it sucks


Thats why I'm glad I live in Los Angeles where's there's a beach almost everywhere you go. Well not really but we still have a great beach where alot of hotties go there, man I love Los Angeles.

[The Great One]

The beach near me is full of burnt out cars and lots of rubbish dumped. But the beach about 20 mins from me is clean and is hosting an airshow this weekend. So if i was to take a girl to a beach it would be the one 20 mins from me. :)

[Lover Nuts]

Well where I live we have no beach so err...yeah!

[Mr. Long]

If I take Savannah to tbe beach, I'll have to pretend that I actually like the beach.

[Lover Nuts]

If I take Savannah to tbe beach, I'll have to pretend that I actually like the beach.

Nice one. Take it easy with her and keep your cool. I hope the best works for you if I haven't already said that.

Oh and wear a condom! :winkok:

j/k

[The Great One]

When you take her down the beach, don't ask her do you want to make sandcastles :p

[Y2J World Champ]

When you take her down the beach, don't ask her do you want to make sandcastles

Unless she says she want's to do it then you really don't have a choice.

[Duff]

Stupid moronic *******s! All of you! Except the wolf, who seems to have some grasp of sense.

[Mr. Long]

If and when we go out. I'll probably stash in my trunk a bag with a big ass beach towel, some candles (and obviously a lighter), some junk like that for if we go to the beach.

[Superman33]

That's uncalled for, Duffington!

[Duff]

no Supes, it isnt. Between here and IOW, i've handed out advice to so many people i've lost count. The vast majority of these people realise that i'm right and act on the advice i give. These stupid ****heads seem to think that this girl is going to fall head over heels in love with him. Realistically the best outcome from following this path is she wont disfigure his balls with a hard kick! I'm not claiming to be some God of relationships, but i've had a hell of a lot more experience of relationships than all the other teenage angst ridden people whos advice he seems to be taking as gospel. They all seem to be ignoring the fact that within the last few weeks, she has already rejected him. She wants damn all to do with him in any respect, other than as friends. Yet every single person here has failed to pick up on this and has filled his head full of so much ****, that he now genuinely believes making a move on this girl is a good idea, when in reality, placing your bell end on a nettle is a btter idea than this and is also likely to give a less painful result

[SCOTT]

whats this bollocks you guys are talking about?

[Peoples King]

Stupid moronic *******s! All of you! Except the wolf, who seems to have some grasp of sense.

Hang on. My Duffmonster hasnt put me in with that crowd has he? But this he is right about the head over heals BS. It wont happen. 16 year olds no **** all about love, unless they are Tom Jones. We think we know everything but really we dont. Teenage love is BS. That is why, more often then not, I actually try not to go with someone. I'll meet them, given the chance I'd do them but after that its just meh. Thats not been cold but the harsh fact is that teenagers no **** all. The large majority of us are morons. The chances are, you will go with her for like a year but then the constant cheating will piss one of you off and vavoom its over.

Is it just me or has this topic gone......... off topic. We went from advice to talk about beachs and Scotts bollox. WP is amazing aint it.

[Gravedigger]

wtf@Duff. Quit speaking Spanish! bellend on a fishnettle? wtf...

Ok seriously, wtf@you guys. Dammit. :mad:

No, wait. You guys are doing good. Duff, just let them talk this guy into making a huge mistake and let him learn from his mistakes. He's letting guys still in high school who don't know a damn thing about relationships give him bad advice.

All I gotta say is bring a bucket man. I said that because you're bringing a lighter, some candles, and a towel...and you're near the ocean...and you're a clumsy, nervous teenager. Figure out what I meant by that, come back here, and post what I meant...because I have no freakin clue what this paragraph meant.

When a girl has their boyfriend or a woman has their husband die, they're off limits for a year. That's like an unwritten law but you kiddies will learn that when you're older.

[Peoples King]

I should really read the pages I missed but damn it Im a lazy ****. GD opened my eyes to candles and towels. Well you do need towels at the beat but candles. It is windy out there you know.

I said that you need to give her some space and you do. Really give her space ALOT of space. I mean a **** load. Some much ****ing space that..... you get the idea. After quite a long time ask her if she would like to go with you. That will last for some space of time but alas it wont last forever.

[Mr. Long]

Duff, you said that she already rejected me, um...when did I say this?

Anyway, I am going to ask her tommorow at work if she wants to go to the movies. And that's exactly what I will say, "Savannah do you want to go see a movie sometime?" And she might say yes, because it's not a date, it's two good friends going to see a movie. We might go to the beach. I'm gonna nix the candle idea if we do go. Honestly, I'm not gonna plan anything ahead of time. If we see a movie, afterwards, I'll suggest that we go do something else. I'm not going to try to "woo" her, I'm just gonna try and make sure we both have a good time.

Thanks for your advice, everyone. Whether your advice ends up helping me or not, I do appreciate it. You actually tried to help me with my situation, when you could have just said, "HAHAHA, your problem not ours!" Once again, thanks.

[Gravedigger]

Duff, you said that she already rejected me, um...when did I say this?
You didn't, but the girl did. You just didn't catch it. You gotta read back to what she said. She didn't come right out and say it plain as day, but she kinda lightly told you she wasn't interested.

[Mr. Long]

Dude, her ****ing boyfriend got hit by a car 4 months ago. When she said she wasn't ready, I'm pretty sure she meant...she wasn't ready.

[Y2J World Champ]

All you can really do is try to be the best of friend to her, because thats what she might need right now, a good friend.

[The_Wolf]

im just shocked to read that her bf only died 4 months ago, and that you even have/had these thoughts off wanting to ask her out.

[The Great One]

Dude, it is going to take a helluva long time for her to get over it. Her boyfriend that got killed she would of loved him with all her love she had, she would of thought that he would of been there with her for hte whole life. So it is going to take her a while to come to terms with her loss, it will usually take a long time, as she might keep saying i'm not going with anybody because i feel i am betraying her last boyfriend. But believe me, going after her now would be the biggest mistake you will ever do. Give her a load of time, and just be there for her, help out when she wants help just be causally a good friend to her and once the time is right she might accept there is no other choice but to replace him then you might have a chance, but be prepared to sit around for at least a year.

[Lover Nuts]

Sorry I must of missed the bit where he was talking about candles on the beach. Man don't do that. Seriously it's cheesy as hell and she'll think you're really weird.

[Mr. Long]

It may seem like I'm trying to go after her, but really, I'm not. Honestly, I would love to be going out with her, but I realize that that isn't going to happen. The only reason I'm asking her to go to the movies is so we can hang out and have fun as friends.

[Y2J World Champ]

The only reason I'm asking her to go to the movies is so we can hang out and have fun as friends.

Exactly, what's wrong with going on to the movies as just friends?

[Mr. Long]

Absolutely nothing. BTW, should I avoid talking about the situation that Kyle & I (and I guess Savannah too) are in?

[Y2J World Champ]

Absolutely nothing. BTW, should I avoid talking about the situation that Kyle & I (and I guess Savannah too) are in?

Well it wouldn't hurt to let her know whats going on. But it really depends if you think she needs to know.

[Mr. Long]

She already knows about most of the situation.

BTW, I asked her to movies, and she said maybe (but she had a kind of "yes" tone). We just have to decide what movire to see (I want to see either Anchorman or Napoleon Dynamite). She did kinda save me from a beat down when she told Kyle that she was going to "be busy" on friday, as opposed to saying "we might be going to the movies."


BTW, Kyle and I are friends again. So that should last until he finds out that Savannah & I are going to the movies.

[Y2J World Champ]

She already knows about most of the situation.

BTW, I asked her to movies, and she said maybe (but she had a kind of "yes" tone). We just have to decide what movire to see (I want to see either Anchorman or Napoleon Dynamite). She did kinda save me from a beat down when she told Kyle that she was going to "be busy" on friday, as opposed to saying "we might be going to the movies."


BTW, Kyle and I are friends again. So that should last until he finds out that Savannah & I are going to the movies.

Well that's good news. [in low sneaky voice] And don't forget about your plan to take her to the beach as well. :winkok: ::[/in low sneaky voice]

[Mr. Long]

Oh don't worry, I won't forget (hums Trojan Man theme)

Honestly though, I'll probably suggest that do something after we get out of the movie, we may go to the beach, we may go get something to eat, or we may go to my house or her house.

[Y2J World Champ]

I'll probably suggest that do something after we get out of the movie, we may go to the beach, we may go get something to eat, or we may go to my house or her house.

That's a better idea, give her choices so she won't feel like you want to go to the beach for a reason. For your sake, hopefully she will say that she wants to go to your house. If she does then well I don't have to tell you what "could" happen next. :D

[Mr. Long]

It won't happen. As much as I would love for that to happen, it won't. Her mom told her "not to ride the roller coaster," and she will probably respect her wishes.

Even if she wasn't planning on respecting her wishes, she probably wouldn't sleep with me (but hey I could be, and hopefully am wrong).

[Y2J World Champ]

It won't happen. As much as I would love for that to happen, it won't. Her mom told her "not to ride the roller coaster," and she will probably respect her wishes.

That's why they invented something called "alcohol". :D

J/K

But seriously, you will just have to wait and see how it plays out on friday.

[Mr. Long]

About the whole alchohol thing, that has a less chance of happening than us sleeping together. Neither of us drink. I don't drink because I don't need booze to make a fool out of myself (plus every alchoholic beverage I've ever tasted, I thought tasted like ****), and she doesn't drink because she is allergic to alchohol (that's acutually a good thing when you think about it).

[The_Wolf]

ohh man, alergic to alcohol. thats tragic, seriously. i just couldnt imagine living in a world without alcohol. like how could you go out to a party or club without drinking? that would blow big time. you might think every alcohol beverage tastes yuk cause you havent tasted the right ones. i wish that it was legal to drink alcohol while at work, it sure would make the day go a whole lot faster.

[Y2J World Champ]

ohh man, alergic to alcohol. thats tragic, seriously. i just couldnt imagine living in a world without alcohol. like how could you go out to a party or club without drinking? that would blow big time. you might think every alcohol beverage tastes yuk cause you havent tasted the right ones. i wish that it was legal to drink alcohol while at work, it sure would make the day go a whole lot faster.

Have you ever actually gone a month or even a week without drinking alcohol?

[Mr. Long]

To alcohol! The cause of -and solution to- all of life's problems.

-Homer Simpson

[Chazz]

Time for Uncle Chazz to chime in here to lay out the law for you. Well, I honestly have to second what Duff and Gravedigger had to say, but I want to add something.

Jesse........even if it is going to the movies as friends.....don't do it! Don't do it unless you guys go to the movies with other friends. I say this because you may think that all you want to be is her friend, but the reality is....you want more. Why? Well, first of all, you started this thread off by saying you were in love with this girl. Big no-no! That tells me that you want her so bad that it hurts. Second.....you have terrible timing (and so does Kyle). The girl went through losing her boyfriend in a car accident, which can totally **** her up! The girl needs time, which she has told you already. GD and Duff went through this with you already, so I need not add anything more.

Whether you admit it or not, you are infatuated with Savannah. Hell, you wrote a character with her as your inspiration. This isn't love, but I know that you feel it is. Trust me and every other "senior" person here when we say that this isn't love. We know what we are talking about.

About Kyle. If you remain friends with this guy and just let him talk **** to you like you have, then you deserve to get your ass beat! Stand up for yourself my boy, and don't let some prick like him jerk you around. You guys have a messed up friendship, and the two of you need to straighten things out.

[Mr. Long]

What is wrong with the two us us going to see a movie as friends? It's not like I'm asking her to marry me. I don't plan on bringing up my feelings for her, but it might come up in conversation. I don't expect to become her ...boyfriend, it's her choice if she wants to go out with me (and I'm pretty sure her choice would be no). But hey, if she is still single by the end of the year, I'll probably ask her out on an actual date.

And I do plan on giving her space when it comes to d...ating, but I'm not going to avoid her, we are friends after all.

[Chazz]

What is wrong with the two us us going to see a movie as friends? It's not like I'm asking her to marry me. I don't plan on bringing up my feelings for her, but it might come up in conversation. I don't expect to become her ...boyfriend, it's her choice if she wants to go out with me (and I'm pretty sure her choice would be no). But hey, if she is still single by the end of the year, I'll probably ask her out on an actual date.

And I do plan on giving her space when it comes to d...ating, but I'm not going to avoid her, we are friends after all.


Because deep down you want to be more than friends, and if you are honest with yourself, you'll see it is true. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being her friend, but at the same time you have more feelings for her that exceed friendship. You need to understand that.

[Mr. Long]

I realize that my feelings exceed friendship. I'm not denying that I want to be more than friends. Hell, I'm sure Savannah knows that I want to be more than friends too. As a matter of fact, I know that she knows that, I've told her (actually I told her that I was madly in love with her).

[Chazz]

Look, I ahve said my peace on this so I will now leave it up to you to make your own decision. Just remember that this is a very fragile situation and right now Savannah is a fragile girl. Just be careful and tread softly with this my young padawan.

[Mr. Long]

Don't worry Obi-Wan.

[Y2J World Champ]

She probably does know how you feel about her but just hope for the best. And Chazz is right, she's probably fragile right now so just give her time to recover from her ex-boyfriend's death.

[Gravedigger]

Look, I ahve said my peace on this so I will now leave it up to you to make your own decision. Just remember that this is a very fragile situation and right now Savannah is a fragile girl. Just be careful and tread softly with this my young padawan.
Exactly, don't help these guys because they feel they're experts on dating just because they had a high school relationship.

I got reminded a couple of days ago how shallow those relationships are and how immature they are until I was talking to my 17-year old cousin a few days ago.

Let them make the same mistakes we do because that's what they'll do.

[Chazz]

Exactly, don't help these guys because they feel they're experts on dating just because they had a high school relationship.

I got reminded a couple of days ago how shallow those relationships are and how immature they are until I was talking to my 17-year old cousin a few days ago.

Let them make the same mistakes we do because that's what they'll do.


Sad..............but true! Hell, I sure as hell didn't listen to my elders when I was in there shoes, so I guess this is just one of those things that we all must go through. But, the funny thing is, in five to ten years, they'll be in our shoes trying to convince the young-ins out there and give them helpful advice. The, and only then, they'll know how right we were and that we were only trying to ****in' help! :D

[Mr. Long]

Like I said before, whether it ends up helping me or not, I do appreciate all of your advice, everyone.

[Mr. Long]

So now that Savannah are actually going to the movies on Friday, does anyone have any suggestions for what we should do afterwards?

[Lover Nuts]

Walk her home, kiss her goodbye (hug her, what ever you normally do to say goodbye) and just go home. You shoulden't rush these things. :beer:

[The Great One]

Do you want us to go on the date for you? :p

Think about something she likes, and do that so she feels comfortable because your doing something that she likes.

[Mr. Long]

Should I bring flowers? I know it is just two friends going to see a movie, so technically it isn't a date. So if I bring flowers, will it just seem weird?

[Lover Nuts]

Should I bring flowers? I know it is just two friends going to see a movie, so technically it isn't a date. So if I bring flowers, will it just seem weird?

Don't bring flowers, just keep everything cool for now man.

[Mr. Long]

As for walking her home, that's not gonna happen. It's a 45 minute drive to the movie theater. If we go to the beach afterward, then I'll walk her home.

[Y2J World Champ]

Alright it sounds like you have a good plan but the one thing don't seem desperate to want her to be your girlfriend.

[Mr. Long]

I get the feeling this is either going to go really well, or I will completely ****bomb it. I should do fine, what's the worst that could happen?

My 300th post! YAY! It took me 2 & 1/2 years to get to 178 on IOW, and it only took me 4 months here. I know that's not impressive to anyone else, but it is to me.

[Y2J World Champ]

Hopefully nothing will go wrong with your date........I mean hanging out with a friend. It would be crappy if this went wrong because it would suck to blow your chance on going out with a girl you like alot.

[Mr. Long]

Honestly, I'm more concerned about ruining my friendship with her.

[Y2J World Champ]

Well the chances of that happening are low unless you do something completely stupid.

[Mr. Long]

Knowing me I probably would, seeing as how this is my first date. Oh yeah...did I mention I've never been out with a girl before?

[Y2J World Champ]

I mention I've never been out with a girl before?

Oh thats not good. That means you don't have experience, I see, well, only real thing you have to worry about is if you do something stupid so just look out for anything stupid you stay or something stupid you do, besides you should be able to go through this date just fine.

[Mr. Long]

I probably won't do anything stupid, I may be inexperienced in dating, but I'm not a moron.

[Y2J World Champ]

And also try to be a gentlemen. Like open the door for her and stuff like that. Try to be a nice guy (if you already are then thats a good thing), girls love that stuff, and some girls would put out. That used to be my rule, which was "if you treated her like a queen then when the night is almost over she has to put out". But I have changed my evil evil ways.

[Mr. Long]

The chances of her putting out (BTW noone ever gave the exact definition of "putting out," so if you don't mind, please elaborate) are slim. But I'll still treat her like a queen, even if she doesn't put out.

[Y2J World Champ]

Well there's always the next date. And thats if she is willing to go out with you and be your girl.

[Duff]

But I'll still treat her like a queen, even if she doesn't put out.


Why, youre only going to see a movie as friends, why treat her as if its a ..........date? Surely, you already said it wasnt? Oh, and why would it matter if you've never been on a date before? I was going the movies with my mates long before i started dating. It's no big deal.

So make up your mind, is it a date or not?

[The_Wolf]

I reckon this guy is gonna s**t himself, he'll probably have a stiffy when they are sitting next to each other.

[Mr. Long]

I reckon this guy is gonna s**t himself, he'll probably have a stiffy when they are sitting next to each other.
Hahaha...No.

[The_Wolf]

heh just jk man, id be a bit nervous if it was my first date...but your not going on a date anyway are you? use are just friends and no more....right....

[Mr. Long]

I don't know what the hell it is. I'll say it's a "social gathering between two good friends."

[Y2J World Champ]

Oh so all your really doing is "Hanging Out". Right?

[Mr. Long]

I guess.

[Mr. Long]

I thought I was so dead today. I told Kyle that Savannah and I are going to the movies (honestly, she made me tell him). Before I told him, I knew he was going to kill me or slash my tires or something, but when I told him, he seem like he didn't care. I hope he wasn't BS'ing me again. Oh well, at least he didn't shoot me.

[Y2J World Champ]

Or maybe he just doesn't care and is tired of chasing her.

[Mr. Long]

Hopefully, so if Kyle's out, that leaves 4 guys (including me) that have crushes on Savannah (though I'm probably the only one who isn't trying to be with her just 'cause she's gorgeous).

[Y2J World Champ]

Well isn't she just popular with the guys in your town. Well just make sure none of those guys are making a move on her but its going to be very difficult with all those guys. Why don't you take her to ElimiDate. You and the other 3 guys and her. Have her eliminate one guy one by one until there is only one.

[Mr. Long]

Well, I really don't want to sound ****y but out of the four of us, I feel like I'm the only one who actually has a chance of being with her. Here is her relationship with the four of us:

Me- Honestly, I don't know (I think I'll ask her how she feels about me on Friday)
Chris- Just friends
Stedt- Barely even know each other
Drew- Just friends, plus he is like 19, so that's kinda illegal

[Mr. Long]

In case anyone cares, Savannah & I went to see Anchorman tonight. We had a great time. I'm gonna see if she wants to see another movie (maybe Dodgeball, I would love to see that again). After the movie, I took her back to my place, and believe me, she a wildcat in the sack (if you believe that last sentence, you're a dumbass). Just kidding. Hopefully she will want to go see another movie with me.

[Y2J World Champ]

So all you did was go see a movie :thumsdown . No beach, no hitting that from the back, no nookie, thats it?

Well maybe if she agrees to go to another movie with you, maybe just maybe you can get a little closer to her. Hopefully but it all rides on your shoulders.

[Mr. Long]

About just going to the movies, she had to get back home to help her mom do something, so we couldn't do anything besides see a movie (BTW, if you haven't seen Anchorman, go see it...NOW!). Maybe next time.

[Y2J World Champ]

Of course there's always next time but maybe next time suggest to go the beach as well. Anyway, it would have been nice if you offered her assistance in helping her with whatever she had to do for her mom.

[Mr. Long]

I get the feeling it was a family thing, so they probably wouldn't have wanted my help.

[Y2J World Champ]

Maybe but there is nothing wrong with offering assistance because by offering assistance she'll start thinking that your a real real nice guy.

[Mr. Long]

Oh well, it's too late now.

Here's one thing that I think is kinda funny. A few days ago when Savannah made tell Kyle that we were going to the movies, he told me that he had no problem with it, and that he didn't care. But Savannah told me that about 20 minutes later, Kyle was furious with jealousy. I knew he was full of ****.

[Y2J World Champ]

Well you better be careful because jealousy can make people do crazy things. So if I were you, watch your back.

[Mr. Long]

Well he's in Chi-Town right now, so I'm safe for the moment. But when he gets back, everytime I see him, I'll make sure Savannah's nearby, because he won't do anything if she's there.

[Y2J World Champ]

Well thats good but if I were you I would take care of this problem with your friend. Confront him and tell him he has no chance in hell to be with her, if not then you can just walk around the streets always making sure he's not behind you ready to beat the hell out of you.

[Mr. Long]

That's a good idea. I don't want to meet Mr. Smiley (his baseball bat that has a smiley face carved into it), or worse Mr. Gat.

[Peoples King]

Jesus is this thread still alive? Its like trying to bet on when George Bush Snr is going to die. Point being, I have a funny feeling the Count is going to live forever. Scarey.

[Mr. Long]

Sorry to dissapoint to you PK, but I;m gonna keep posting here until Savannah becomes my girlfriend, or something relatively close to being my girlfriend. So that means, much like George Classic, this thread is never going to die.

[Duff]

wanna bet on that?

[Mr. Long]

Uh no, seeing as you can close this thread at a moment's notice, I shall reiterate...no.

[Chazz]

To quote the great Kip Winger, "You're headed for a heartache. Headed for a heartbreak!".

[Mr. Long]

In case anyone is wondering why I changed the title of this thread to "As The Bag Turns," it's because this whole situation just like my own little soap opera, and since it mainly takes place at PUBLIX, the grocery store that Savannah & I (& Kyle until recently) work at, I decided to kinda change the name of a current soap (guess which one) to fit my situation.

[Lover Nuts]

In case anyone is wondering why I changed the title of this thread to "As The Bag Turns," it's because this whole situation just like my own little soap opera, and since it mainly takes place at PUBLIX, the grocery store that Savannah & I (& Kyle until recently) work at, I decided to kinda change the name of a current soap (guess which one) to fit my situation.

Wow, I'm not watching Eastenders tonight as "As The Bag Turns" is the shiznit! :D

[Mr. Long]

I smell a Daytime Emmy! No wait...that's not what I smell...(looks at cat) BAD KITTY!

[Gravity]

Wow, I'm gone for two weeks and a 14 page love thread has started under my nose. Boy I love this site! All I can say is best of luck to you WWFUSA4Ever, and as for Kyle, you can just tell him to shove it and get on with his life cause it relativly obvious that he doesn't have a chance in hell and beatin the **** outta you won't help the situation any. If anything it would make it worse so bah. *scoops up cat crap and walks off*

[Mr. Long]

Thanks for the support.

Oh BTW, I got interesting info yesterday. Savannah told me that the night before Kyle had called her and said, and I quote, "Savannah, I love you." And before she could say anything, he hung up. I don't think he realizes that he doesn't have a chance with her for a long time (if ever, because she has told me that she doesn't like him that way). I realized that I don't have a chance for a long time (if ever), so I'm not trying.

One thing that is kinda funny. The other day, Savannah & one of our friends Chris told Kyle (over the phone as he's in Kentucky) that I was taking Savannah home after work. He flipped out! I got on the phone, and he said, "Dude, I'm gonna slit your throat! You better ****ing move before I get bacK!" Thankfullly, Chris told him it was a joke. This just shows that Kyle is psychotically over-protective of Savannah, and that he can't stand it when within a hundred feet of her.

[Lover Nuts]

This just shows that Kyle is psychotically over-protective of Savannah, and that he can't stand it when within a hundred feet of her.

What an ass. If he touches you don't hesitate to do this :fart: lol j/k mate.

[Mr. Long]

Hahaha, that's what I plan to do.

[Chazz]

Has the soap opera run its' course? I thought this thread would never end. :chuckles:

[Y2J World Champ]

So I guess this is over and has no meaning anymore so can a MOD just close this thread.

[Lover Nuts]

Good idea. :winkok:

[Mr. Long]

The soap opera shall never end (does evil laugh)! As a matter of fact, yesterday, Kyle reassured me that I should "be worried." Which I think is a handy peice of info. The odd thing is, today he sorta nice to me (you know the whole as you walk past someone, you flick your head back and say "Sup?"). I'm getting tired of the ****, if, he wants to be a **** to me, then he shouldn't wait until Savannah isn't around. Oh well.

If this thread does close...

As I have said before, I do appreciate everyone's advice.