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Mr. Business
07-03-2004, 12:05 AM
What are everyones thoughts on this guy? Like him? Hate him? Don't really care? Or don't watch SmackDown!?

Me, I hate the guy. He's boring, dull, and just not fun to watch. He's horrible in the ring, and on the mic. I mean look at his moveset for god sakes, it's bascially: punch, kick, chop. Not to mention that his mic skills are IMO boring. Not really his fault since he can't speak "english", but there still boring.

Plus what I really hate is how the WWE is handling him. They have Suzuki be in squash match after squash match, and now after just a few weeks, there going to most likely have him be in a U.S. Title feud with John Cena? Cena isn't good enough in the ring to carry him into a decent match; so the feud isn't a good idea.

I say send him back to OVW, and let him get better in the ring. Because how he is now(on the mic, and in the ring), I feel like changing the channel everytime he gets on the television set.

Agree or Disagree?

Sunshine
07-03-2004, 12:17 AM
does he even know how to wrestle? Because the moves you listed were basically all the moves ive seen him pull off. The only things that impress me are his finisher, and his wife. I wonder what she would look like without the robe..

The Kid
07-03-2004, 12:23 AM
I disagree to an extent. I agree he has gotten a little boring but I'm not ready to write him off as a bad wrestler just yet. I haven't seen enough from him to make that judgement. I'll give him a little bit more time before I make my decision about him.

Madhatter1
07-03-2004, 01:12 AM
I agree with NL, I feel his isn't ready to be thrown to the wolves on national television. On Smackdown, a show where true heel heat is only drawn by the usual idiots(Heyman, JBL, Angle) he needs to be a little more entertaining or do something in the ring entertaining (i.e. add more moves in moveset). He can be impressive but he needs a few more fundamentals.

Gravedigger
07-03-2004, 03:43 AM
What's with the sudden swarm of mediocre wrestlers on TV now? Mordecai, Tyson Tomko, Luther Reigns (or however you spell his last name), and Kenzo Suzuki.

I don't like Kenzo either. He's overrated or was overhyped. Whatever you want to call it.

Cripplerlock
07-03-2004, 06:41 AM
Kenzo Suzuki was way overhyped. I am kind of disappointed because I thought would be a good wrestler. Also the fact that he cannot speak English does not go well for him in the WWE. That is a common problem among Japanese wrestlers thrown into an environment where sometimes mic skills overshadow wrestling skills. Kenzo's problem is he does not seem to have either. However, I can't put all the blame on Kenzo. WWE has seen a wave of developmental stars to tv and I am not sure they are ready yet either.

Superman33
07-03-2004, 06:49 AM
He's a waste of television time. He was overhyped and has yet to impress me. WWE should not have signed this guy in the first place.

Sunshine
07-03-2004, 07:28 AM
guess what? When they first signed him, they were planning on him feuding with Benoit on RAW for the World Title...ROFLMAO!! Imagine if that happened...Raw would be almost as horrible as Smackdown

Gravedigger
07-03-2004, 02:31 PM
You mean he REALLY can't speak English? I thought that was a gimmick.

Peoples King
07-03-2004, 03:07 PM
Poor Kenzo is on the 'Most Hated' list already. However Peoples King, being the beovalent son of a bitch that I am, is here to defend Mr Suzuki.

Okay I will admit that from what we have seen from Kenzo has not been anything sepcial. It has been squash match after squash match and he hasnt shown a wide range of wrestling holds and moves. However lets take step back for just a few seconds and look at the people he has faced since coming to the WWE.

He debuted against Scotty 2 Hotty. Already poor Kenzo was in trouble. Scotty is about as entertaining as my former History teacher. In other words, he sucks. Scotty is hardly what you would call a top class talent and what Suzuki needed was a give and take contest to get him over as a very solid wrestler. Nobody buys squash matches especially when Sticky 2 Hair is in the ring.

He made his PPV debut against Billy Gunn. OH THE HUMANITY! Who can truely have a solid outing with Billy Gunn? I saw Chris Beniot struggle against Gunn in an IC match back at Armegeddon '00. Billy Gunn just doesnt have it in singles actions and I have yet to see a match that would convince me otherwise. There is no way that Suzuki could have a good match against Mr Gunn. It is humanly impossible.

So basically kittens, what I am saying is that you are all writing Suzuki off too soon. He hasnt been given the chance to really show us what he can do in the ring against a good solid wrestler. So please I am begging you to sit back and wait for Kenzo to get a match against a good talent. Then he can have a give and take match. Then we can truely pass judgement on the Japanese........ have they come up with a nickname for him yet?

Gravedigger
07-03-2004, 07:12 PM
So basically kittens, what I am saying is that you are all writing Suzuki off too soon. He hasnt been given the chance to really show us what he can do in the ring against a good solid wrestler. So please I am begging you to sit back and wait for Kenzo to get a match against a good talent. Then he can have a give and take match. Then we can truely pass judgement on the Japanese........ have they come up with a nickname for him yet?
But the thing is, he's done basically NO wrestling moves at all. Just punch, kick, and chop. No matter how bad his opponents suck or how quick of a match it's going to be, there's no excuse for horrible wrestling skills.

Big Shot
07-04-2004, 01:44 AM
I don't think that his skills are that bad. Hes more of a martial artist (kinda) than wrestler but is that really a bad thing. Only time will tell.

Gravedigger
07-04-2004, 02:28 AM
I don't think that his skills are that bad. Hes more of a martial artist (kinda) than wrestler but is that really a bad thing. Only time will tell.
Yes, it is a bad thing. Kenzo is on a wrestling program, not a karate competition. At least Tajiri, Akio, and Sakoda know more than three moves.

lol, it sounds like Kenzo is the Goldberg of Japan. Next thing we know, Kenzo will start punching limo windows out and claim that he thought they were fake since it's on wrestling. :chuckles:

Y2J World Champ
07-04-2004, 02:50 AM
Well alot of rumors are flowing around that Kenzo Suzuki will be put in the WWE Championship Title picture very soon. And I just hope that this rumor is 100% completely false. I have seen this guy wrestle three times and in all three matches he was completely boring. He didn't do nothing at all. Punch, kick, grab your face, drop you to the floor, its over. Kinda reminds me of Goldberg just like GD have said that Kenzo was probably the Goldberg of Japan. Well I just hope they send this guy back to OVW for two things, learn to speak some english and to learn some wrestling where he can do more than 3-4 moves. They brought up all this hype that he hates America and all this crap and that he is going to get revenge, well he showed up on Smackdown and what did he do, nothing, was he impressive, hell no. In my opinion (may be harsh) but Ernest "The Cat" Miller and Scott Steiner are more entertaining in the ring than this guy was.

"Thank You"

Gravedigger
07-04-2004, 03:08 AM
Well alot of rumors are flowing around that Kenzo Suzuki will be put in the WWE Championship Title picture very soon. And I just hope that this rumor is 100% completely false.
So do I. It's like he's trying to kill Smackdown. Seeing as how majority of his established stars are on RAW minus a couple who were placed on SD to balance it out, it seems as though SD is nothing more than a playground. Or a test show. He sees how crappy an angle he can create before fans tune out so he can better develop angles for RAW.

He being Vince McMahon.

The_Wolf
07-04-2004, 03:28 AM
when i see this guy coming down to the ring i realise just how much bs is in wrestling these days, just this guy coming down in one of those whatever things his sitting in and then trying to put the scary look on and talking his language. sure his new and his trying to make a impact, but id rather him just do it in the ring

Cripplerlock
07-04-2004, 06:02 AM
You mean he REALLY can't speak English? I thought that was a gimmick.

Do I detect sarcasm in that post. Well we really don't know if he can or not but even if he knows some English that does not mean he knows it well enough to cut a promo. Funaki was in the WWE for years before he even attempted to speak English on television(The voice overs don't count).

PK, is right about one thing. It is not like Kenzo has had any good talent to work with. Maybe Mysterio or RVD might be good opponents just to give him a little boost. He still has a long ways to go.

The Kid
07-04-2004, 06:12 AM
Well we really don't know if he can or not but even if he knows some English that does not mean he knows it well enough to cut a promo.

It's not all about knowing English either. The WWE are sorta racist about this in some ways. They don't want foreign people speaking English. It might not be the case here but Tajiri speaks fluent English yet is portrayed as not knowing the language.

Peoples King
07-04-2004, 10:45 AM
Does it really matter if he speaks English or not? Seems that this is a classic case of western arrogance. Mick Foley and others didnt speak a word of Japanese but it didnt stop them from gaining great fame in the Orient.

A squash match will always be a punch, kick, chop affair. No matter how good you are, you will always have a squash matches that involves little or no real offence. Im not going to judge him until I see Kenzo Suzuki stink up the house against Ray Mysterio or RVD. Some wrestler find it hard to make themselves look good in squash matches but come out looking like a million bucks in a give and take all out contest.

IMO Suzuki would have been better off coming in and being paired against a strong talent rather then being thrown into squashmania. Fans are always going to **** on someone if all they do is take part in squash matches.

Gravedigger
07-04-2004, 01:11 PM
Do I detect sarcasm in that post.
No, I'm serious. I thought it was just a gimmick. I don't read the rumor lines anymore or keep up with the indy scene or japanese news, so I don't know the guy.

Lover Nuts
07-04-2004, 04:40 PM
Until I see Kenzo in a match against either Rey Mysterio or RVD I won't take him seriously. He says he hates America, blah blah blah, I've heard it all before (Un-Americans, La Resistance), it's nothing new to me.

I don't follow the Japanese feds but so far I think Kenzo can't wrestle for ****. All he does is kick, punch, chop.

:beer:

Qwaar-Jet
07-05-2004, 09:55 PM
I don't mind Kenzo.His modified STO is a belting finisher, and I like the fact that he truly can't speak English, although it must be hard calling the moves during the match.If he adds a few more moves to his playbook, he could at least be an upper midcarder.His entrance is also well done, because it makes look like an important figure.I say let's give him a chance and see what he does.He needs a good opponent.Rob Van Dam would be my choice, I think they could compliemtn each other's skills well.

savage-monkey44
07-15-2004, 09:10 PM
I have no feelings against or for Kenzo. I want to see a real match out of him against someone who knows how to wrestle. then I will pass judgement.