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Sunshine
06-25-2004, 07:34 PM
The following is the final Great American Bash PPV card for this Sunday as noted on Smackdown this week:

WWE Heavyweight Title - Bull Rope Match
Eddie Guerrero (c) vs. John Bradshaw Layfield

WWE United States Title - Fatal Four Way
John Cena (c) vs. Booker T vs. Rene Dupree vs. Rob Van Dam

Concrete Crypt Match
Undertaker vs. Dudley Boyz

WWE Cruiserweight Title
Rey Mysterio (c) vs. Chavo Guerrero

Torrie Wilson vs. Sable

While not confirmed, Mordecai vs. Hardcore Holly and Kenzo Suzuki vs. Billy Gunn may also be added to the PPV

-WZ

look at the Mordecai/Holly, Kenzo/Gunn, Wilson/Sable, and Mysterio/Chavo matches....they had 1 week to feud...WOW

The Kid
06-25-2004, 10:01 PM
I think that Mordecai will most likely face Holly, which should be a very unenjoyable match. I haven't seen very much from Mordecai but I know for a fact that Bob Holly is an over the hill, no talent, washed up peice of **** ( doesn't help he's an ******* as a person either). If this match does take place, I see Mordecai coming out with the win as Holly hasn't been doing anything productive in a while and Mordecai is an up and coming wrestler who the writers seem to be high on.

I think that Nunzio could face Paul London and if he doesn't it's my opinion that they missed a perfect oppertunity to build upon the Cruiserweight Battle Royal. This would give London some much needed TV time on a PPV none the less. If the WWE want to try to save Smackdown then using the Cruisers is the key. If this match does happen, I'd love to see London pick up the win but I've been saying that for a while and nothing has happened so if it happens, Nunzio will win.

Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo is a match that has proven in the past to be usually good matches but I think that in the past few months it's been overdone. I think it would have been much better if Billy Kidman had have won the Battle Royal rather than Chavo. As they proved in WCW, Kidman and Mysterio can produce amazing matches when paired up against each other. However overdone I think that this match is, it will probably be pretty good but it won't impress any more or less than their previous encounters. Rey's my pick to come out with a win in this match and hopefully put this fued to rest for a while.

Ok I'm going to rant about Torrie vs. Sable for a little while. I thought that when I tune into Smackdown I'm watching wrestling not watching some bitches who can't act or wrestle getting into a ring and teasing some nudity. ****, if you're watching wrestling to see people getting naked then I really question your motivations. Honestly if I were one of the cruiserweights like Paul London who is immensely talented but hasn't been given a chance to show what he can do I'd take these two having a match over me. It must be such a slap in the face to all of the wrestlers who have worked their asses off their entire life to get to this point to have to watch this. The only thing I can say about the match itself is that it will be complete and utter ****. Now that I got that off my chest, let's move on.

I don't really know if Kenzo is going to face Gunn or not because of the lac fo build up but if it happens, I won't really mind. I think that Kenzo appears to be an above average worker, I just hope that he will be able to produce a good match when given more ring time. I really can't see Gunn getting the win here as it would hurt Kenzo alot. Billy doesn't really need this win here but I think that he should be built better so it wouldn't seem like such an upset if Gunn won. Unlike alot of other fans, I really don't mind Billy Gunn. He isn't really a great wrestler but he's OK and brings alot of energy when he's out there. I think Kenzo will pick up the win in a 7-10 minute match.

Dudleys vs. The Undertaker to me is very intruiging as I have no clue what's going to happen. I could see Taker just laying down for The Dudleys or I could see him beating them. Because they were so vague about what "the right thing" was, it leaves a pretty good possibilty for a swerve where maybe laying down for them isn't the right thing as I'm sure most people suspect. If they do kill Bearer off, it would be cool to see but kind of breaking realism. If the wrestlers in the storylines go to jail for tresspassing then you would have to think they would for murder as well. Whatever happens it should at the least be interesting.

The Four Way matchup could IMO be the match of the night. Everyone in the ring with the exception of Dupree can produce a good matchup and Dupree isn't all that bad either. Because of lack of matches on this PPV I could see this match going in the 30-45 minute range which will be good because it allows the match a good amount of time to develop and I think that is good because one thing that has stopped the devolpment of these 4 is the lack of time they're given in the ring. I really don't know who I want to see win this title but I know that Cena will retain. I don't see him losing the US title until Orton loses the IC title. I think that the WWE wants to paralell their careers as much as possible as I think these two are being built as Austin and The Rock ironically the two people that they most resemble.

I hope that Eddie is prepared to carry JBL yet again. In the main event we have a Texas Bull Rope match which really isn't a bad thing as I think that it's a refreshing change to see gimmick matches that aren't used all that much. I think that the Judgement Day match was overrated and Eddie pretty much made that match with his crazy bleeding. I see this match ending with Eddie getting a clean win and I think that there will be alot of blood in this match but I don't expect it to be anywhere near as much as it JD. I don't really see this being too great match but who knows maybe JBL will suprise me and bring his "A" game to GBA

All in all, like JD I don't really think that this PPV will be worth the price of admission. It looks to be a weak card and there are only 5 confirmed matches and one of them is Torrie Wilson vs. Sable. Add onto that the possibility that Undertaker might just lay down for the Dudleys and we could be left with 3 actual matches. I really think the WWE need to reconsider the way Smackdown is being booked because if this is what we have to shell out about 40 dollars for then I don't see how Smackdown can survive.

Unknown
06-26-2004, 06:08 PM
Sadly as I predicted at the beginning of the month in another thread, this PPV will be a flop. The original card was a bit better though. The site for the bash isn't even updated and they expect people to care about the PPV? Honestly when last weeks SD was over and there were only three matches with any kind of build I knew they were in trouble. I won't even comment on this weeks SD as I usually do other than saying that it was the second best episode since the draft minus the rushed PPV buildup. I wouldn't be suprised if this PPV doesn't make it to the 100,000 buy mark. Sadly, Vengeance is headed this direction seeing as a main event hasn't even been announced for that PPV. What benefit is there to buying WWE PPVs anymore than me proving myself right that it was going to flop?

Y2J World Champ
06-27-2004, 02:51 AM
Well its time for my predictions for GAB.

WWE Heavyweight Title - Bull Rope Match
Eddie Guerrero (c) vs. John Bradshaw Layfield
Prediction: Eddie Guerrero, this has to end at the GAB. Its time for Eddie Guerrero to defend the title to someone who deserves it much more. cough booker t cough. Hopefully these two men could put up a better match that the one they had at Judgment Day. Now I went to Judgment Day and I enjoyed watching this match, hopefully they can raise the stakes a little and make this match so good that the whole Great American Bash Pay per view might be saved, hopefully. All I can say is good luck JBL, good luck!

WWE United States Title - Fatal Four Way
John Cena (c) vs. Booker T vs. Rene Dupree vs. Rob Van Dam
Prediction: Rene Dupree, This is the perfect time for John Cena to...drop the title to Rene Dupree, Dupree is a deserving man, and if he wins this match he can be known as a mid-carder because Dupree needs to win a big man to make me a believe. And having Dupree win can lead to Rob Van Dam and Booker T. becoming Main-Events because I have been waiting a long time to have Booker T. win the WWE Championship Belt and having Rob Van Dam feud with Eddie, because the match between Eddie/RVD two years ago was such a great match that fans would love to see it again, I personally would want to see this feud go on where they could possibly have a Ladder match to end this feud.

Concrete Crypt Match
Undertaker vs. Dudley Boyz
Prediction: The Undertaker, we all know the Undertaker is going to win which would lead to Undertaker turning on Paul Bearer and becoming a heel. Even though its almost impossible for Taker to be a heel because the fans simply love him too much to boo at him. So I choose Undertaker, and in the end he would tombstone PB.

WWE Cruiserweight Title
Rey Mysterio (c) vs. Chavo Guerrero
Prediction: Rey Mysterio, This was a match that happened in the last minute, this rivalry has been gone on since No Way Out. And this match was just something to fill up the spot in the GAB PPV. All I can say is hopefully both these men can put up a good match. Good luck. And maybe they can have Kidman come out and attack Mysterio after the match is over. Kidman has always been a heel and Kidmans needs to do something evil like attacking the fans favorite cruiserweight, Rey Mysterio. This could lead to a memorable Kidman/Mysterio Match, Finally!

Torrie Wilson vs. Sable
Prediction: Torrie Wilson, who really cares about this match, theres nothing special about the match, the only thing that can save this match is if some hot female came out and we see HLA between Torrie and the other girl. Besides that nothing can save this match, period.

Mordecai vs Hardcore Holly
Prediction: Mordecai, who gives a dam about this match, I dont, so why do you?

Kenzo Suzuki vs Billy Gunn
Prediction: Kenzo Suzuki.. response same as above.

The way it looks, the GAB will be another bad ppv. And the only thing that can save this pay per view is if the rock and austin come out but we know that will never happen. So GAB, worth watching, for me yes, just to see how far the WWE will go with the Eddie vs JBL match.

Well here comes my catchphrase in 1..............2...............3

"Thank You"

Mr. Long
06-27-2004, 03:59 AM
Just to let everyone know, another match has been added to the card.

Charlie Haas vs. Luther Reigns

Most likely, Haas will be slaughtered by Luther.

Mr. Business
06-27-2004, 04:31 AM
I'm actually looking foward to this PPV. Yeah, I know, half of the matches didn't even have more than 1 week to build up, but for some reason I'm actually looking foward to The Great American Bash. The main event should be very interesting and I can't wait to see what the WWE has planned for it. The Dudley Boyz/Undertaker thing is VERY weird. Will Undertaker turn heel? Will Heyman and 'Taker become partners for good? Should be fun. Not to mention the fatal 4 way and Chavo/Rey should be good as well.

I'm be watching. And I actually think this is going to be a better PPV than Judgment Day.

legendaryken
06-27-2004, 09:39 AM
Looks like this is also the prediction thread, so here goes:

JBL to surprise everyone and walk away with the strap (for a short time, anyway.)

Booker T to win the 4-way. He deserves the break and Dupree will be around for a long while yet.

Taker to slaughter the Dudleys. Bearer to meet his maker.

Mysterio to retain. I've had enough of Chavo.

Sable to beat Torrie. Torrie losing a match has been my wildcard prediction for about half a dozen PPVs, so surely this time.

Mordecai, Suzuki and Reigns are also winners unless they get disqualified. Either way, they'll be walking out of the ring where their opponents will be carried.

I'll not be watching, so can someone post results tomorrow??

Weaf
06-27-2004, 12:11 PM
I don't think I've ever been this indifferent towards a WWE PPV. I really don't give a crap about it. Not one of the matches on the card interests me, it's basically a shambles. If Smackdown was a dog then it would have been put down, have some humanity Vince, put the bitch down!

Lover Nuts
06-27-2004, 06:59 PM
I would watch this PPV, but there is no way in hell I'm paying £14.99 for it. There are only 3 matchs I want to see and those are Eddie Guerrero vs Bradshaw, Undertaker vs The Dudleys and the Fatal 4 way.

Mr. Long
06-27-2004, 07:23 PM
14.99! Dude, we gotta fork over like 30 bucks for a PPV. I know that a dollar and a pound are worth different amounts but still, that less than what we have to pay.

Note: I'm not up on the whole exchange rate thingymajig. so the above statement could be completely wrong.

Weaf
06-27-2004, 07:39 PM
It works out a little less but we get the PPV at 1.00am because of time difference so we should get it cheaper.

Gravedigger
06-27-2004, 08:08 PM
I don't really care for the PPV, but wish I could see it just for Undertaker's match...and maybe the US title match.

Here's my predictions minus reasons....

WWE Heavyweight Title - Bull Rope Match
Eddie Guerrero (c) vs. John Bradshaw Layfield
Prediction: Eddie Guerrero

WWE United States Title - Fatal Four Way
John Cena (c) vs. Booker T vs. Rene Dupree vs. Rob Van Dam
Prediction: Rene Dupree. I've said before that he's the only one with a chance.

Concrete Crypt Match
Undertaker vs. Dudley Boyz
Prediction: The Undertaker

WWE Cruiserweight Title
Rey Mysterio (c) vs. Chavo Guerrero
Prediction: Rey Mysterio

Torrie Wilson vs. Sable
Prediction: Torrie Wilson

Mordecai vs Hardcore Holly
Prediction: Mordecai. Although I do gotta say the guy looks really small...a lot smaller than he appeared in the promos prior to his debut. I first saw him the other night fighting Hardcore in the hallway.

Kenzo Suzuki vs Billy Gunn
Prediction: Kenzo Suzuki

The Great One
06-27-2004, 08:25 PM
30.00 USD United States Dollars = 16.42 GBP United Kingdom Pounds

So we get it cheaper by £1.44 i think. But it may be wrong.

Sunshine
06-27-2004, 08:39 PM
here is the updated FINAL card. Didnt wanna edit my first post because some people probaly wont goto the 1st page.

The following is the final card for tonight's WWE Great American Bash pay-per view:


WWE Heavyweight Title - Bull Rope Match
Eddie Guerrero (c) vs. John Bradshaw Layfield

WWE United States Title - Fatal Four Way
John Cena (c) vs. Booker T vs. Rene Dupree vs. Rob Van Dam

Concrete Crypt Match
Undertaker vs. Dudley Boyz

WWE Cruiserweight Title
Rey Mysterio (c) vs. Chavo Guerrero

Torrie Wilson vs. Sable

Luther Reigns vs. Charlie Haas

Mordecai vs. Hardcore Holly

Kenzo Suzuki vs. Billy Gunn



my predictions..


WWE Heavyweight Title - Bull Rope Match
Eddie Guerrero (c) vs. John Bradshaw Layfield
-Eddie, JBL did that thing that are makin the staff considering firing him, so why would they give him the belt?
WWE United States Title - Fatal Four Way
John Cena (c) vs. Booker T vs. Rene Dupree vs. Rob Van Dam
-RVD, dont know why. Booker wont win because he deserves more, Dupree is still too young, Cena should lose the match because of Kurt Angles interference. My guess it that Angle faked the whole injury and then attacks Cena and leads to the Summerslam match
Concrete Crypt Match
Undertaker vs. Dudley Boyz
-Um..no winner, Taker will bury Paul Bearer himself and become a full heel
WWE Cruiserweight Title
Rey Mysterio (c) vs. Chavo Guerrero
-Rey Mysterio, he needs to revive the belt after what its just been through the past few months..
Torrie Wilson vs. Sable
-Torrie, face always win in these kind of matches. And she'll probaly strip after the match
Luther Reigns vs. Charlie Haas
-Although i wont like it, Luther will probaly win to get more over as a monster.
Mordecai vs. Hardcore Holly
-Mordecai, look above
Kenzo Suzuki vs. Billy Gunn
-Kenzo, look above twice


and WTF!!! Look at most of those horrible matches! They got put on the last freakin minute. Haas vs Luther? They aint got beef!!

Unknown
06-27-2004, 11:58 PM
WWE Heavyweight Title - Bull Rope Match
Eddie Guerrero (c) vs. John Bradshaw Layfield

If Eddie loses the belt it will be worth nothing. Don't get me wrong I don't have a problem with him or JBL it's just that he hasn't had a clean win since becoming champ and he needs some credibility now. I see him going over JBL then moving into a feud with Undertaker where he will hopefully go over cleanly and give his title run some credibility.

Winner: Eddie Guerrero

WWE United States Title - Fatal Four Way
John Cena (c) vs. Booker T vs. Rene Dupree vs. Rob Van Dam

John Cena has to win this match. He has lost a lot of credibility within the last few weeks and him coming out on top of this one will help build up his character and will give his title run a bit of credibility. Kurt could then cost him the belt on a SD when he is no longer GM leading to a match between the two at Summerslam. Booker and RVD should then feud pushing them back into the main event where they belong as SD is seriously lacking main event talent. Dupree needs to be established more and a US title run so early in his career will ruin his longevity.

Winner: John Cena

Concrete Crypt Match
Undertaker vs. Dudley Boyz

If the WWE wants to kill all of the momentum the Dudley's have been building and want to bury the tag division even more they will have the Undertaker go over. Sadly I think they will have Taker win anyways. I'm still holding out hope that they'll have him call Heyman's bluff and Heyman will kill Bearer. Taker will then go to take his frustrations out on the Dud's but they will end up slaughtering him. On SD I'd then have a number one contender's match where Taker would win and would end up realigning himself with Heyman and feud with Eddie. This will setup his losing at SS and Rhyno's coming over to SD and taking Taker's spot and eventually feuding with him and going over so that SD has a strong heel.

Winners: The Dudley Boyz

WWE Cruiserweight Title
Rey Mysterio (c) vs. Chavo Guerrero

This match has been seen millions of times before but it never disappoints. Rey will win giving the cruiser title some cred after the way it has been ****ted on for the past two months. He could then drop it to a heel Billy Kidman or Jamie Noble and then move into the US division as he has done everything possible in the cruiser division. It's time for the WWE to create another cruiser star (even though they didn't create Rey) like they did with Chavo.

Winner: Rey Mysterio

Torrie Wilson vs. Sable

Winner: Torrie Wilson (Doesn't deserve an analysis because both don't even deserve a spot in the WWE and this match isn't even worth a slot on Velocity)

Luther Reigns vs. Charlie Haas

Honestly they dropped the ball with Haas. They could have used Rico's injury to make Haas a heel with a mean streak. They could of had him put Rico on the shelf then work as a Bret Hart/Benoit/Angle type heel. Anyways, Luther will win. Atleast he has more potential then Kenzo and Mordecai combined.

Winner: Luther Reigns

Mordecai vs. Hardcore Holly

Winner: Mordecai (Hopefully they'll drop this gimmick soon or send him to Velocity)

Kenzo Suzuki vs. Billy Gunn

Winner: Kenzo Suzuki

Roland
06-28-2004, 01:10 AM
Well I'll be watching it this is really the only time I get to watch event other than the time when its a holiday bad card but since I've been fortunate to have the chip I take a peak, chance are like the last Smackdown PPVs I'll fall asleep, as for the prices they're outrageous, for the ones who pay for it you guys are dedicated

Sunshine
06-28-2004, 05:17 AM
muahaha my prediction about Undertaker was RIGHT! He buryed Bearer himself. Muahaha..im so proud of myself

legendaryken
06-29-2004, 04:32 PM
Ah, but you didn't get 7 out of 8 right like me. That's quality guesswork.....ahem....wrestling analysis.