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Snowman
02-05-2009, 02:09 AM
This week's Live started off a little weird, to say the least. I got to the arena and there was some guy waiting for me at the door who went by the name of "Ethan Frost... No, wait! I mean Jack... Yeah, that's it... Jack!". The guy gave me a folder filled with rather shocking pictures of one of WPW's biggest stars and, even though I find it hard to believe that they aren't fake, It's an exclusive story so I had to share it.





These pics seems to show that none other than the asshole off MTV, Ashton Kutcher, is apparantly legendary WPW superstar El Pollo. Like I said, I dunno if this is fact or fiction but one thing is for sure: The guy who handed me these pics must have really wanted El Pollo's street cred to take a hit.




WPW Tuesday Night
Live!
February 3rd, 2009
Freebird
Jacksonville Beach, FL



Christopher Asmodeus v Beno
With this match being only the second of the somewhat unfortunately named Christopher Asmodeus and also a chance for Beno to make up for recent losses, both men were looking to come away from the match with a clear victory. Sadly for them, the match was a little bit closer than that. The match started out with Beno being sort of afriad to touch his opponent, and who'd blame him? Beno kept asking the referree if "it was safe?" but ref Todd Franklin kept assuring him that it was indeed okay to touch the monster and not catch anything. After Beno overcame his rational fear, the match was underway with most of the action balancing back and forth until Asmodeus dodged a clothesline at one point and quickly turned around to face Beno, which shocked him greatly. Terrified by the sight infront of him, Beno was frozen in his spot which allowed Christopher to deliver a HellFire Chokeslam (described by his brother as an "Ultimate Chokeslam", which apparantly involves a little sneaky rear groping). The North Korean-born Asmodeus covered Beno to get his second win after moveing here to the nicey nice pleasantland of USAVille Americaworld.


Blake Baker v James Moriarty Cassius
Perhaps with the morale support of his sister at ringside, Blake could have caused a huge upset here but sadly for him the hype that follows JMC around is there for a reason and the former WPW champion proved too much for young Blake alone. That being said, this match was an impressive one with Blake putting up quite a challenge against Cassius, but slipping up enough times for James to take advantage of a few school boy errors and get the advantage on several occasions. Blake even looked as though he might be able to pick up a win after he delivered a Blake Breaker (Carlito's Back Cracker) but loose pin attempt made it easier for JMC to roll out and buy some time before making a quick comeback and catching Blake in the Cassius Sharpshooter. Cassius dragged Baker to the middle of the ring to make sure an escape would not be easy and after a few failed attempts to break free from the hold, Blake couldn't take the pain anymore and had no choice but to tap out.


Van Risen v Brock Goodman
This match was fairly one sided throughout, in the favour of Van Risen, but Brock gave a few mean looks to referee Todd Franklin, so it wasn't total dominaton. Van started out by working on Goodman's back early on in the match which paid off as it slowed ex-murder down quite a bit for the rest of the fight. With most of his attacks focusing on Brock's back, Risen hit an array of various suplexes to weaken him down and hopefully remove any energy that would allow him to kick out or submit. Luckily for Van, his tactics paid off as Brock was rarely able to get a punch in to break the constant attacks which meant it was downhill for Brock from the starting bell. It was all over when Risen threw a right boot in the the gut of Goodman and quickly excecuted a devistating Tiger Driver like move, "He Is Risen" (pedigree piledriver), before covering Brock and getting the 1 2 3.


Frank 'The American Ninja' v El Pollo
This match... Well.... This match never really happened. Frank came out to greet El Pollo with a great big hug, and then pointed up to the ramp where two midgets (dressed as Frank and El Pollo) entered. Frank then explained that he could never fight the cock that saved him from jail time, to which El Pollo turned to sky and cried "I WILL NOT FIGHT MY BROTHER!!!". Frank then continued to suggest that the match should be settled through the medium of midgets... And so it was! Lil' Frank and Micro Cock went at it like crazy, put on one hell of a show. It really was incredible, I didn't even know a cock that small could cause that much damage! But what really mattered was the outcome of the match, and the might of Micro Cock was not enough to contest with the sneaky sneakyness of Lil' Frank. Lil' Frank managed to roll up the little cock in to a tiny little package and get the three count, earning big Frank the win over his friend and still soccer practice partner, El Pollo. The two celebrated in the ring with a good old dance before making their way up the ramp.


Non-Title Match
Sudden Impact(c) v N-815 & Pepsi™ Man
This match was pretty one sided, and from an un-suspected side aswell. The new team of N-815 and Pepsi™Man seemed to catch Sudden Impact out with each and every move, surprising the tag champs at every turn. In fact, the match was headed towards a loss for SI pretty smoothly until Pepsi™ accidently charged in to ref Todd Franklin. Despite having Cage ready to be pinned, Pepsi™ lost control of the situation when, out of no where, Adams slid in to the ring with a steel chair and took out N-815 with a cold, hard shot to the head. Pepsi™ sprinted at Adams as Mike turned around, Pepsi™ collided head on with the chair, knocking himself out. Adams tried to help Cage to his feet and it looked as though Sudden Impact might steal a win until none other than El Pollo and Frank the American Ninja sprinted down the ramp to save the day. El Pollo took a rising Cage down with a spear while Frank ducked a chair shot from Mike and knocked him out by dropkicking the metal back in to Adams' face. Time came to call for the bell when Frank pulled Pepsi™ on to Cage and EP helped Todd Franklin to his feet, allowing him to make the three count.


After the match was over and the clutter that is Mike Adams and Chris Cage were cleared from the ring by that guy who brushes the mat at house shows with a big broom, the show went on a final little spot which was pretty cool. As Mina announced the winners of the match, El Pollo, Frank, Pepsi™Man and N-815 stood tall in the center of the ring holding each others arms in the air in victory, much to the delight of the crowd.



Quick Results
Chris Something def. Beno
JMC def. Blake Baker (via Submission)
Van Risen def. Brock Goodman
Frank def. El Pollo (via Midgets)
N-815 & Pepsi™ Man def. Sudden Impact

blade13
02-05-2009, 11:28 PM
Great Live Snowy, I see Chris Asmodeus is doing alright so far here. Big win for N-815 and Pepsi. Keep up the great work.

I say more about the other matches later on.

AFalseSinn
02-05-2009, 11:33 PM
Everyone needs to thank me for watching a movie where Ashton Kutcher plays a guy working at a chicken pizza place and then hunting down pictures for Snowy so he could have fun.

Then you need to thank Snowy for writing a great show.

Then thank me again.

Mr. Hendrickson
02-05-2009, 11:51 PM
Very good show mate. I think the images of Asstun Kunter is awesome with him in the El Pollo gear. Nonetheless it was a good show worth the wait and what not. Ithink I have an idea to work with N-815 & Pepsi™ Man. Anyways I want to say that I am high right now because I found out we are having a girl.. So I am in a good mood.

Snowman
02-06-2009, 12:03 AM
Congrats Hendy :) (But I really thought Beno was going to win)

Uh, yeah thank the wondeful AFS for the Ashton Kutcher pics!

All relevant profiles have been updated, hopefully correctly. Lemme know if I've made a mistake.

blade13
02-06-2009, 01:20 AM
Yeah thanks AFS so the picture. I got a laugh out of it.

One Stratusfied Customer
02-06-2009, 03:43 AM
Wish I didn't know JMC's second RP didn't count, hehe... Kinda makes ya feel shit when you can't beat someones 1 RP with 2 of your own. I know it's about quality not quanitity but obviously the quality of that 1 must have been much better than mine to beat 2. Before anyone complains- I'm not bitching or saying the decision was wrong, just thinking out loud.

While I was thinking about this it had me wondering.. How are RPs judged? In averages or totals? What I mean is say GuyA's first RP gets 6 points and his second gets 4 points and DudeB's only RP got 9 points. Would DudeB win because his average (9) is higher than GuyA's (5) or would GuyA win because his total (10) is higher than DudeB's total (9)? Obviously this would be within reason, I'm just wondering the general judging thinking.

Back to the show... Nice little show and the love the El Pollo thing, have we ever known who he is/was? Is it supposed to be anyone special under the suit? Will we ever know?

Anyways.. Good work!

Prometheus
02-06-2009, 06:53 AM
Are you sure mine didn't count? I thought it did. But to answer your question, I am pretty sure it's quality over quantity. But don't worry. There's not a person alive in WPW who hasn't lost to me at some point. And I really enjoyed fighting you this week!
Also Live has now got a rather impressive little spiel to it, nice work. guess this is the old boss seeing where everything gone since he left, but it's a damn good read once again.

Scorch
02-06-2009, 07:41 AM
OSC, nobody can tell you the general thinking of judging because if they are honest, there never was one. Its always been up to the individual writing the match to judge things how they see fit. There is no set rule stating "you judge rps on a scale of 1-100, awarding points based on timeliness, progression of story, originality, spelling and grammar, dialogue, scenary, etc." Nor is there a rule of how to handle grading rps. For the most part, people don't do that, I know I have before, but it takes time that people don't have or want to put in to it. Essentially judging an rp is a form of literary criticism, which is something you learn, more complex then "oh, I liked that."

The quality over quantity argument is a bit simplistic. The idea is that if you do a few quality pieces, you don't have to worry about a guy just flooding bad rps and winning cause he did 10 and you did 2. But it doesn't take into account how to handle situations where a guy posts a few great ones, but the other guy posts several really good ones. Do you award the extra effort or the overall quality? Taking quality over quantity to its maximum, only 2 rps should really count each match, each persons best. So its actually not as simple as it can be made out to be.

Not sure if that helps answer your question or not. Basically just as different writers will look for different things, they also each get to choose how to handle a situation like the one you described.

And Prom, be careful man, I would hate to see you choke on your arrogance. (Seriously man, not sure if that was your intent, but wow.)

As for the show, glad to see each match having similar effort levels put into it. The El Pollo gimmick is very limited and hopefully will not last too long, only so many dick jokes to do before it gets stale, like the reformed DX.

Prometheus
02-06-2009, 09:14 AM
It wasn't really. The last time I fought OSC was way back in PCW and he did get more wins off me than I did him. It's me just trying to consolidate him, but youre right about how arrogant it sounded.

Juice Springsteen
02-06-2009, 10:20 AM
I love how, according to you, Asmodeus "coverered" Beno to pin him.

Gunnar Brian
02-06-2009, 12:04 PM
And here I thought that TNT would have been before Live :P

Now I know Snowy had a few problems this week, and unfortunately it did show in Live. There did seem to be a lack of a creative spark, that I (well I would) would associate with him. Bit of a shame, but the show is still very reabale and somewhat enjoyable, just missed a spark.

(Wasn't a fan of the El Pollo revealling either :P)

pepsinut
02-06-2009, 12:13 PM
I cant believe I beat the tag team champions lol thank god for the chicken guy um Id like to thank my mom and stuff cause their really important to me

Sorry I took so long to respond to the show but I was off volunteer firefighting in Afghanistan

Darth Vader
02-06-2009, 01:04 PM
You rule Pepsi guy. Pepsi totally pwns coke! Loved the show, and the el pollo thing, very nice :laughing: :wink1: I never expected that in the match, Beno would ask the referee stuff cause he's afraid of my character o.O lol

One Stratusfied Customer
02-06-2009, 01:58 PM
I didn't mean quite so strictly as actually giving each RP, I just used that as an example. Basically what I was getting at was what Scorch said about the quality over quantity thing being simplistic.

This really isn't about my loss, more looking how to reply in the future. I.E. I pretty much knew I wasn't going to be putting in anything better than JMC, but if I posted more than him which were close to that quality.. Would I win? (I don't mean this week as I actually didn't manage to do as many as I planned).

legendaryken
02-06-2009, 04:21 PM
The El Pollo gimmick is very limited and hopefully will not last too long, only so many dick jokes to do before it gets stale.

Proof positive that Scorch and I are not the same person despite never having been seen in the same room together (I knew that some of you were still wondering)

Good Live! and thanks for that El Pollo revelation. My money had been on Scorch but i never saw Anton Thingummybob coming (ho ho - there's another one)

Finally, the RP judging debate - Definitely quality over quantity, and that's very much in the eye of the beholder - but I'd bet that faced with one really good RP from one camp versus 4 average ones from the other, the average ones would win as judged by nearly every writer (myself excepted) here. Anyone wanting to argue that? I agree that we should probably just look at the two best from any series of RPs which would save someone posting half a dozen, just to try and overwhelm the opposition. Certainly it would be out of character for Killing Joke to respond in depth to everything his opponent has got to say (You may see that as an excuse for laziness on my part, but it's true! If HHH was up against Funaki for instance, he's not going to spend 20 minutes tearing him apart verbally - he's going to virtually ignore him and do 10 minutes of his own thing - am I not right?)

Snowman
02-06-2009, 07:38 PM
El Pollo isn't actually Ashotun Kutcher by the way... It was just a ploy of Ethan's.

And as for RPs, OSC, I don't allocate points or numbers to RPs when judging a battle, I balance the battle out in my head. I take factors like quality of setting descriptions, impact of dialogue, grammar, RP flow, general direction of the RP and pretty much everything else.

The big difference between your two RPs and Promtheus' one, is that I read yours and I felt Promy's. I'm a sucker for imagery with metaphors and similies, they're a great way to show off your writing ability and draw in the reader, and Promy's had plenty of them. (Your's didn't). Emotive words add impact to anything you try to say in an RP, and makes the meaning behind your points stronger, which is something Promy used quite a bit. (You didn't). Vivid adjectives, adverbs, basic English points they used to teach you in the classroom to make your short stories a little better are, for me, what can really improve an RP. But then again, that's just me. I love comedic RPs as much as the next guy, but it'll be pure writing ability that usually wins me over. And I'll stress again that it's simply my opinion. Each writer probably has their own preferences when it comes to RPs, but that should by no means change your writing style if you don't want to. If you're perfectly happy writing the way you write, then stick with it! The main point of this fed is to have fun, and winning titles is hardly worth it if you're not doing it in a style thats yours and that you're happy with.

One Stratusfied Customer
02-07-2009, 05:59 PM
Just to reiterate- I didn't mean actual point giving that was just to explain what I meant about the quality. I don't mean people actually doing maths to work out the winner, just using numbers to show what I mean.

& again... This isn't about my loss.. Just had me thinking for the future.

legendaryken
02-08-2009, 10:27 AM
El Pollo isn't actually Ashotun Kutcher by the way... It was just a ploy of Ethan's.


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