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Unknown
06-16-2004, 05:43 PM
Shelton Benjamin arguably is one of the best breakout stars of the WWE today. He has tremendous in ring talent, adequate mic skills, and is no stranger to gold in the WWE. The sad fact of the matter is that Shelton Benjamin is not over. It’s so hard to believe that he isn’t given his talent and current feud with Randy Orton…sad but true.

Shelton Benjamin first came to the WWE and wrestled on Heat. Since seeing him on Heat, I knew that he would be big. I always asked myself what was this guy doing on Heat? Soon enough, he made it to the big stage as one half of Team Angle along with Charlie Haas. This duo was probably the best tag team the WWE had seen in years. It was obvious though that Shelton had a little more of that it factor than Charlie Haas had. This team had some MOTY candidates with the likes of Los Guerrero’s, Eddie and Tajiri, and Billy Kidman and Rey Mysterio. With such little time in the company, Shelton had established himself as on of the greatest talents on his show. Then the draft came. Shelton and Haas were split up. Shelton was put on the Raw brand. It looked as if he was in line for a huge push and he was.

Shelton Benjamin had clean wins under his belt over the likes of HHH on more than one occasion, Ric Flair, and even the Intercontinental Champion Randy Orton. Benjamin was a rising star on the Raw brand. Shelton and Randy Orton right now have one of the best feuds in years going for the IC title. These two men bring back the glory days of the belt with matches like HBK/Razor Ramon and are putting the belt back in the spotlight once again making it seem as important as the World Heavyweight title. With all of this, Shelton Benjamin has enough stock to be traded on the New York Stock Exchange but despite all of this work put into him, the man isn’t over.

Shelton Benjamin comes out on Raw to silence. I myself wonder if people are stupid. Yeah some are…but it’s easily understandable why he doesn’t get a huge face reaction. With all of the building he has received, the WWE has spent little to no time on his character. For one, I can count on my one hand how many times they’ve let him get on the mic. The man has mic talent so let him use it to get his character over. Another thing is his entrance. Boy when he skips down the ramp he looks like Maven and a comparison to Maven is never a compliment. His entrance is way too cheesy. This is probably the thing that is hurting him the most. It’s time for a new entrance complete with new music to fit his character and get the crowd hyped for him and some new entrance moves rather than skipping down the ramp. Another thing that’s hurting him is the lack of single’s matches the WWE has booked him in outside of fighting Evolution to establish his character. Speaking of matches, boy does he need a new finisher or what? That slam looks like more of a mid match move than a finisher. I could easily see him using a move like the Styles Clash (Crash’s old finisher for non-TNA fans). Simple but it looks much more effective. Lastly, his absences from Raw. Where the hell was he Monday night? There is no excuse for them not having him on Raw especially since they are trying to groom him to take the IC title from Randy Orton. They did the same thing two months back also when he had a lot of momentum going his way. When you’re trying to establish a new star you can’t miss an opportunity to try and get him over even if he’s on screen for two minutes. A simple backstage interview could have done it for Monday simply him saying that he’s going to get the IC title if it’s the last thing he does. They can’t afford to leave him off of TV.

Shelton Benjamin isn’t over because of the little time spent building his character. He has received an excellent push but without a strong character to carry the push he might as well be on Heat right now because he won’t get over. Fear not, maybe the WWE is going back to the drawing board right now in hopes of a new character for him. Shelton Benjamin can be an excellent WWE Champion in the future as long as the WWE gives him a good character now. It would be a huge mistake to give him an IC title run without a strong character for him because he won’t gain anything from it nor will the IC title. Character development is why he isn’t over and hopefully that will be fixed in the near future.

Lover Nuts
06-16-2004, 05:52 PM
Shelton isn't over yet because he's getting built like Maven. Maven was built as a lucky random man who won Tough Enough and who has eliminated the Undertaker from the Royal Rumble. I hope that Shelton doesn't get built up the same.

Gravedigger
06-16-2004, 09:05 PM
I think he's not over because fans are picky when it comes to faces. With heels, it doesn't matter who they boo. But it seems with faces, you have to be built up for years and be a major name in wrestling to get the right amount of cheers and to be considered over.

There's certain exceptions to that like Cena, but only because he has a hip-hop gimmick and he insults people. He's like The Rock and Stone Cold wrapped into one with a little dash of ghetto fabulous or hip-hop or something hip.

Lesnar got a lot of cheers, I guess he got his because he was given the strap plus he just freaking manhandled EVERYONE. Giving him the strap kinda forced people to cheer for him. Like saying "he must be worthy of our cheers and a good guy if he can beat the evil WWE champion".

I can't think of any more examples of people who got huge pops that were rookies.

The Kid
06-16-2004, 10:53 PM
God, the more and more I see from you the more I'm impressed Unknown. Admit it Unknown, You're Molly Brown and just not telling us right? I caught you.

OK once again I agree with the fact that Benjamen is simply not all that over. The main reason for that is that he really doesn't have any sort of a character. The fans will only cheer a wrestler with killer mic skills or people with huge size. Othe than that they aren't really cheering for a wrestler but for the character that they portray. What's Shelton's gimmick? He's basically just been built as a regular young guy who got a couple fluke wins against top level superstars such as Triple H. He needs to establish some sort of a character or a gimmick. The Undertaker wouldn't have been a gigantic star if it weren't for his gimmick of the Deadman. Think of all of the top stars in the WWE and in WWE/WWF History and you could more than likely think of their character. The Rock was a ****y, charismatic wrestler who would come up with insults for anyone. Stone Cold was the ultimate rebel. He drank on the job, swore and beat up his boss. For the time period that was an extremely cutting edge gimmick. ( although it was around before when Heyman created it for Austin).

I think that a fued with Randy Orton could do wonders for Shelton's career if it is continued for a longer time period. This could kind of give Shelton a gimmick. He'd have everyone doubting him and he'd be out to prove everyone wrong and that he is the real deal and more than just a few fluke wins. This gives him an underdog character. The only problem is physically Shelton doesn't fit this role. He isn't excatly Spike Dudley so as he climbs up the ladder his gimmick would have to be adjusted. I think that he could go over on Orton but then try to prove that he is a better champion than Randy was and defend the title against all challengers ( notice a common theme in all of my Armchair Bookings when it comes to champions?)

About Shelton's finisher as well, I think that it too has to be adjusted if he is to make it to World Title level. I really don't think that the Styles Clash is a really good choice for Shelton. I think that it works better for a smaller wrestler. Maybe somone like Noble. I totally marked out for the Dragon Whip that he was using previous to being on Raw. I wouldn't mind seeing Shelton use a move like the Ki Krusher '99 ( for those who don't know what this move is, think Fisherman's suplex into a Michinoku Driver). but there is alot of impact that could potentially be put on the neck/back area so the WWE would most likely forbid the use of this.

Lastly, I gotta agree with Shanando, It sure does seem reminiscant of the push that Maven got when he entered the WWE. We all know how that turned out. I hope the same doesn't happen to Shelton because as I'm sure we can all agree, supremely talented.

Unknown
06-16-2004, 11:26 PM
I doubt that he'll become another Maven. Hopefully his week out was for him to get new music and come back with a completely new attitude. I see this feud going into Vengeance where he'll finally get the belt. By then, they should have his character right. I think that even the WWE isn't stupid enough to let a guy like Shelton slip away from them and become another Maven. They need a strong midcard face right now more than ever.

wwechick1982
06-17-2004, 07:15 AM
Shelton Benajamin, while a tremendous talent, doesn't have the right gimmick. I don't know about fans being picky when it comes to whose a face and whose a heel; I like Shelton and I think, no I know he will go a long way in the business maybe even surpassing Randy Orton? Is it just me or is Orton getting staler by the minute?
Anyway, Shelton is over with some fans, who have caught on quick to his talent and there are fans that will never accept Shelton as either a face or a heel. That is something that he and the WWE will have to address in the future.

~Rachel

KusToM KnucKs
06-17-2004, 07:58 AM
I think Shelton is over with wrestling fans to an extent. His skills are over on all of us because we can see that he is a talented guy with the stuff to be big. His character isnt over with the fans & until WWE try to fix this up I cant see the average wrestling fan cheer for him. Same can be said for Edge & having no character but he still gets a few cheers because he isnt a rookie

Chazz
06-17-2004, 06:45 PM
I think we all know that ring talent alone does not get you over with the fans. Yes, there are those fans who do appreciate and respect ring talent, but it is still not enough to get you over. Look at guys like Steven Richards, Lance Storm and Val Venis. Those three are very talented, yet they have never been over in their respective careers.

Shelton has this problem as well. What the WWE decided to do to build him up was have him seem like this over-achiever who did not belong. So, Shelton gets his chance against The Game......a match that Shelton should not win, right? Shelton does and the fans go nuts. WWE thinks they have found something. Wrong. Even with Shelton's win's over HHH, Flair and Orton, it still wasn't enough. So, they give him this dorkey hip-hop entrance, keep him in his dull wrestling gear, and give him no mic time whatsoever. Yeah...that's gonna get you over.

Shelton needs tv time.....and he aint getting it. Put him on the HighLite Reel and let Jericho help him get over. Jericho is great at doing this. Instead of Shelton being goofy, give the guy some attitude. Have him attack Randy with a chair and beat the hell out of him.

As for his mic skill, well he needs to quit trying to foce himself when he talks. He never seems confident to me when he has a mic, but this aint all his fault. WWE hasn't given him time to grow, which is what he needs. He doesn't ooze charisma and so far his promo's have been him having silly grins.....acting like he can't hear what someone says to him....and then him trying to sound tough. Confidence is the key, and until he develops that he will not help himself out.

And it was a big mistake not having him on Raw this past Monday. This was a missed opportunity for the WWE to cash in on. Shelton should have showed up and began to wreak havoc on Evolution, ending with an attack to Randy Orton. That could have worked wonders for Shelton. Unfortunately, we'll never know.

Shelton does have a bright future, as long as creative doesn't screw him over.

The_Wolf
06-18-2004, 06:14 AM
i think he just needs time to get over with the fans, i dont think getting him a few wins from guys like hhh and orton are guaranteed to get him over, he needs a bit more of a personality and to have a few more fueds. a fued with a heel edge would be a good start....

Cripplerlock
07-02-2004, 04:43 AM
Darn, I new I should have come to this forum earlier because I was just thinking about the situation with Benjamin. Of course I can't think of anything new to say since it pretty much was said on this thread. The Bottomline is Shelton has tremendous talent and just needs a chance to show it more often. You can't bulid a guy up by having him fued with evolution and then have him not appear on Raw for the next few weeks. I haven't seen heat so I don't know about that. You can't get over with the fans if your exposure to them keeps getting interrupted. I also think Benjamin does have some natural charisma and with some practice he probably could learn to cut a better promo. Trust me, Chazz, confidence is the least of Sheltons problems(not that he has many). He can overcome that with practice, but again he needs more exposure on a live show. We just have to hope that Shelton has not become another victim of the creative team.

Unknown
07-02-2004, 05:00 AM
If I didn't say it before I am glad you made the jump to WP. We need more intelligent posters like you. :winkok: I agree with what you said. Hopefully they'll allow him time to develop his mic skills. Brock went from horrible to...ok I guess :chuckles: . The one thing Benjamin has on his side is his natural charisma which will get him far. They just need to find a way to give him a mean streak because being arrogant really doesn't suit a face that much. It just makes him look even more like Mr. Lucky.

savage-monkey44
07-08-2004, 08:35 PM
yes I think he needs to wrestle people who aren't fan favorites. because at BAcklash he got booed and Flair got cheered. which isn't a good thing. he needs to be put against people that the fans hate and he has to look like a victim. he can't be going around punking people out.
I haven't seen him since bad blood I wonder what happened.

The Kid
07-08-2004, 08:41 PM
I haven't seen him since bad blood I wonder what happened.

I'm pretty sure that Shelton got injured. That's why he hasn't been appearing on TV.

savage-monkey44
07-15-2004, 09:04 PM
yes I assume he was injured but how I wonder.