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I.P.Freely
06-11-2007, 05:18 PM
Hello everyone on the WrestlePower forums.
I am I.P. Freely (I know, silly name Simpsons spoof really). I am an announcer for the New York City based "2KW" Backyard wrestling fed. Now by reading this, please don't peg us as the run of the mill, weapons smash and bash types. Please view this video for a taste of what we are about.

2KW Early 2007 Clip below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc_dfpZYf1k

We have over 150 full matches online currently on the YouTube website and are in a constant battle to find more fans to watch and enjoy our product. I hope any and all of you that have read this and watched (or plan on watching) the video, can and will enjoy.

Thank you for reading.

-I.P. Freely

legendaryken
06-11-2007, 05:39 PM
How could I refuse after that nice invitation?

Some neat moves in here, guys. Worth a watch. I want these bad boys on my side (those that aren't in line at the ER that is).

btw........whatever happened to don't try this at home or at school? Luckily they left the crucial loophole - the local playground! Yay!

Tank2K8
06-11-2007, 06:17 PM
DAYUM! That was kickass. That looked realer than WWE and more painful.

The Judge
06-11-2007, 06:39 PM
For anyone interested, pain levels are about like this... On a scale of 1-10.

Wrestling in the Ring: 4-6, depending on the ring quality.
Backyard Wrestling: 8-9
Wrestling on concrete like these guys: 10

Props for doin that, I know while I was actually crazy enough to partake in the first two, I definately won't be doin the concrete type. Be careful, because no joke, you could easily suffer an injury that will stick with you for life, most likely to the back or neck.

Andrew Xavier
06-11-2007, 07:59 PM
My comment on Youtube:

Fucking Hell!!! That is some sick shit! You guys better be careful but still fucksake that was awesome. I figured this would be just a bunch of crazy fuckers hitting each other with stuff but this is a bunch of crazy talented fuckers!! Seriously if you are willing to take bumps like that and have ability like that you should be at the top of the ladder in the business. I mean christ I still can't get over that video. Nice work. Favourited.

~Reaper~
06-11-2007, 08:31 PM
I think thats the most realistic wrestling I have ever seen... DAYUM!!

It looks so painful... ouch.

D-Dogg
06-11-2007, 11:15 PM
You know usually i piss all over Backyard Wrestling and i still feel it is a cancer to wrestling. However i must give credit where credit is due and say that this video was heavily entertaining and that there were some real good moves in there and also gives props for the bumps. But at the same time i have to ask if you guys are capable of doing this why waste your talents in a Backyard Fed? It's not like New York is short of wrestling schools, seriously you guys should find yourself a school and start learning because believe me once you have the basics down of bumping, psychology and selling you will easily get on shows with the moves you were pulling.

The Judge
06-12-2007, 12:08 AM
Three big reasons anyone does backyard feds:

- They don't want to do wrestling as a profession, and just want to have fun with friends.
- They can't afford wrestling school, which I don't know about out there, but averages around 6K over here.
- If you're not serious about following it as a profession, the "boot camp" style alot of training schools use is just a drag.

Training is the only way to go if you want to make it big, but I can totally see why alot of people don't do it.

That said, once again, taking bumps on concrete? Argh that must hurt!

Mr. Hendrickson
06-12-2007, 03:31 AM
Dude. kick ass man I subscribed!

The Great One
06-12-2007, 01:15 PM
Man, their was some sick moves in their. I don't know how one of you's haven't got an injury yet. I enjoyed watching that, i'm going to watch some more of your videos.

rockstar08
06-12-2007, 10:10 PM
I have to say, after all the backyard vids I've seen this is the most real hardcore, talented backyd wrestling I've ever seen. This one takes the cake...A lot of those moves I haven't even thought about.....I'll give this a 9.5/10

The Kid
06-12-2007, 10:43 PM
Backyard wrestling is a fucking joke and an insult to real wrestlers. Ok, nice head drops. Nice high flying. The moves are crisp, stiff and all that bullshit. But wrestling has VERY little to do with how many moves you can do or how many times you can drop a motherfucker on his head. This is basically Jackass with wrestling moves. It's good for what it is, unfortunately what it is is a joke. I'm not gonna give some dumb people props from trying to kill themselves.

Mr. Long
06-13-2007, 01:29 AM
I've gotta agree with Kid.

There is a reason why you're called yard tards. Go find yourself a real pro wrestler and see how well that shit goes over. If you wanna be taken in anyway seriously, go to a fucking wrestling dojo and learn how to put on a real match.

You keep this shit up, and you'll have a nice lawsuit on your hands when you accidentally drop another idiot on his head because A. You don't know how to protect your opponent, and B. The dumbass you are "wrestling" doesn't know how to bump properly. No matter how "skilled" or "trained" you might think you are, when concrete meets neck or head, concrete wins everytime.

I.P.Freely
06-13-2007, 04:10 PM
In Regards to "TheKid" and "JLO".........

The majority of 2KW wrestlers, actually have ring experience, a few have done independent shows (UXW/USA-Pro, AWA) and are probably the safest group of guys you could find in Backyard. As for the professionals comment, 2KW is actually respected by a professional in ROH, Jack Evans.

Here's a link to a quick blog entry of Jack's...
<a href="http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=56211712&blogID=238256140&MyToken=36512b15-d09e-41fc-beb8-ce02d6b901ef">Blog.</a>

Mike Adams
06-13-2007, 04:21 PM
"safe" and "bumping on concrete" should never be in the same sentence

Mr. Hendrickson
06-13-2007, 05:45 PM
2KW! 2KW! 2KW!

I have watched nearly all the videos and became a huge fan. Hell I added them to my Myspace and put them in my Top 12. They are simply amazing and gives good ideas if your a E-Fed owner!

The Kid
06-13-2007, 07:32 PM
I watched a match and saw a dragon suplex 4 seconds into the match. Just..wow.

D-Dogg
06-13-2007, 09:17 PM
I watched a match and saw a dragon suplex 4 seconds into the match. Just..wow.

Hahahahahahahaha! You've gotta love The Kid!

And you see it is things right there that make Backyard Wrestling the cancer of the wrestling business. As tough as you guys may be for taking the bumps, innovative moves and "sick" head bumps mean fuck all as far as real wrestling is concerned. Hell the entire idea of a head bump contradicts that of basic wrestling skills in that a bump is made to be safe and that you land flat. However as Kid pointed out most people believe a dragon suplex to start a match makes the match awesome when in actual fact it's just stupid.

Also i would like to add that getting respect from Jack Evans is personally not something i would be all that proud about.

rockstar08
06-13-2007, 09:22 PM
Damn!

Duff
06-13-2007, 09:50 PM
Right, i have no particular opinions either way on BYW, nor have i watched these videos as i don't have the time.

However, this forum is here to discuss BYW among other things. Therefore, if your sole intention is to come in here and insult those who participate in such events, please stay out of any threads related to said topic. It is entirely unacceptable for people to discuss something within the limits of the forum in which it is contained, only for some members to come in and blatantly flame them. The guys responsible know we aren't harsh with rules here, but there are limits to what is acceptable and what isn't. Some of the posts thusfar have been outside of those limits.

I.P.Freely
06-13-2007, 10:03 PM
Very few and far between are the bumps taken on concrete. The surfaces we wrestle on are a rubber hybrid base placed in most parks, to keep children from getting severely hurt and cushioning their falls. It is no where near as unforgiving as concrete.
Again constructive criticism and what seems to be a generic generalization and insult to character. But as Duff stated, I'm not here to pick a fight, merely here to show people who are interested in watching some of the best BYW my comrades and myself can produce. If anyone has any questions about the fed I can do my best to answer.

Again, thank you kindly for your support.
Even if it isn't BYW, continue to support wrestling! =)

-I.P. Freely

The Kid
06-14-2007, 03:15 AM
I can understand and everything, I just really don't wanna see someone land wrong and end up in a wheelchair for the rest of their lives. I mean come on guys, if you're not getting paid, you're risking your bodies just to please a few people. If you're gonna do that shit, at least be getting paid for it..you know?

I still have nothing constructive to say about a dragon suplex 4 seconds in..imcomprehensable :/

The Judge
06-14-2007, 03:29 AM
Well one thing to note, is in the real wrestling ring, you're not always getting paid either. You can pay 6 thousand dollars to get trained, and wrestle for damn near three years "paying your dues" before you even start to see any cash, and even then unless you're wrestling in the big time, it's not enough to live on or really warrent the risks your taking, it's all about exposure for some, and for most desire.

The type of wrestling I see in these videos shows them wrestling for the same thing. These kids have desire, and even if the match phychology is pretty off, it's not like you would expect that from a BTW fed anyway. I mean if you have the money to go get yourself trained and don't mind dumping all that cash into something you know that, at best, may pay back the money you spent within a decade, then all power to you. If you're a kid who grew up with nothing though, and you didn't have the money or "the look", but still wanted to have some fun with a passion of yours, than why not?

BTW is the bane to wrestling like Diet-Coke is the bane to Coca-cola. Did that make sense? Good, it was meant to sound off. Because even if BTW isn't as good as the stuff you can see on PPVs and DVDs, it's still wrestling, and it still gains overall interest in the product that might not have existed otherwise.

And honestly, if you're not a fan of it, don't watch or participate in it. It doesn't effect the rest of the wrestling world.

The Kid
06-14-2007, 03:51 AM
Problem with doing it just for the passion is, Hayabusa's paralyzed, Owen Hart's dead, Mark Briscoe has come close to paralysis on more than 1 occassion, Droz is paralyzed, Sabu broke his neck, Dreamer broke his neck, Benoit, Austin, Helms all out with broken or badly injured necks. This isn't the type of business to get into without a reasonable expectation of financial success. I know others do it, but I just really don't wanna see another kid end up fucking his life up because of a need to impress 20 people. I know I'm not supposed to be talking about something I don't like Judge, but in this instance, I kinda feel displaying the other side is warrented, especially in contrast to those saying "OMGZ GUYS..KEEP UP WITH THE HEADDROPZZ"

The Judge
06-14-2007, 04:00 AM
Yes but each one of those guys got messed up, and they all did it with proper training and what not as well. BYW isn't safe, and the people you wrestle won't be as safe with you as some will in the big times, but everyone goes into it at their own risk. As silly as it is to some people, it as passionate as wrestling is to others. I know personally, even though I sometimes wonder why I still watch the WWE, I'm one of those people who no matter what would risk it all just for one shot to make it big, and if I didn't do it or ended up getting injured in the process, at least I could say, even if only for a short while, I did what I really wanted to do in my life.

That isn't everyone of course, but I can 100% see why and support anyone who's into BYW, and while if The Judge ever returned to wrestling it'd be to the mat and not the dirt and grass, I'd be a snob to look down on anyone who doesn't have that privledge.

Andrew Xavier
06-14-2007, 05:51 PM
Yes but each one of those guys got messed up, and they all did it with proper training and what not as well. BYW isn't safe, and the people you wrestle won't be as safe with you as some will in the big times, but everyone goes into it at their own risk. As silly as it is to some people, it as passionate as wrestling is to others. I know personally, even though I sometimes wonder why I still watch the WWE, I'm one of those people who no matter what would risk it all just for one shot to make it big, and if I didn't do it or ended up getting injured in the process, at least I could say, even if only for a short while, I did what I really wanted to do in my life.

I 100% agree with you Judge, If I had just one chance to do it, even if I got really messed up, I would do it just to say I accomplished my dream. Personally at the moment I think if you watch a match in detail you can learn safe moves and get a good sense of match psycology while you are at it. I mean I have been watching wrestling for a good ten years and when I started backyarding it with my friends I started to study it, like really watch old tapes and matches and see how it was done. I reckon I could pull off almost all of the simple moves you could learn in the first couple of weeks at wrestling school and even a few more. None the less what there guys are doing is dangerous but like Judge said they do it becuase of their desire to Wrestle. I know myself that I have the passion to wrestle anyway I can, I mean at this moment I'm trying to piece together a charity event at my school in which we will use Gym mats in the games hall and about 15 untrained guys. What I want to do is have a 3 weeks preperation where we can all get to know each other properly and feel safe, and study tapes, and learn for ourselves. Even if the show sucks it is that passion for wrestling that will mean I will enjoy it. And hell if I get hurt during it Ill be happy still. Basically my point is here that these guys do what they do becuase they love to wrestle and if they want to take the risk to achieve their passion then don't say what they do is crap, I have a hell of a lot of respect for them for doing what they do, and yes it's a bit insane and stupid, but these guys clearly love what they are doing.

JustinCredible
06-15-2007, 08:44 PM
wow,that wasn't bad at all...some of you should get trained,there is deff. some natural ability there.

mumbles
06-17-2007, 06:07 AM
you only live once and life is nothing to take seriously. If your having fun with it and it's worth wild whatever. It's better than killing yourself in front of a tv eating doritos slowly over time.

I watched the first one and it caught my eye and I can't say i wasn't entertained

But still though couldn't you do something a little safer like sharring heroin needles with prostitutes?

Sky Ryder
07-11-2007, 09:54 AM
ok.... i'm about to get flak... i know it... but i can't help it.

1. That was, in my opinion, a excellent compilation, and I, for one, could tell that some of them had recieved training at some point in time. Agreeing with some of the guys who have already posted... if you don't have the money to get in the big leagues... it's your alternative.

2. Again agreeing here... Backyard wrestling CAN help. It's not very often, granted, but honestly, if you land on that ground enough times./... you're going to try and find a softer way to land, as in bumping correctly. Then, when you get your break, IF you do, you'll already know something, right?

3. Some big name wrestlers got their start backyarding. Mick Foley, got started because someone saw him jump off of a roof onto a couch. I have video evidence, from Pro Wrestling Insider, the the Hardy's were backyarders, the worked their way up.

4. The pay? Hell... I've been working indy shows since September of 2006, and I've seen guys who work for the biggest indy place in the metroplex, Professional Championship Wrestling (PCW), work the exact same show as me, and get paid the same as me, sometimes less. And they have been in the business for YEARS.

5. (I swear, I'm almost done...) Truth be known, when I was younger, I backyarded. True, almost none of it was done for film, I think there's only one surviving match, and I was a run in... but I did it just to LEARN. I used to stare at matches, rewind and play over and pver again, until I figured out, and was 100% sure, how to perform and/or take a move. Then, I would go out back, and then run through it a few times, before finally testing it. And when I went to get trained, they were suprised at how much I had learned. Even now, I have a makeshift ring, that I go out to just to train, test new moves... practice my bumps. And once every blue moon, I talk some of my old buddies into coming over, and we hold a mini show of sorts... Free of charge, of course.

In closing.... I feel, backyard wrestling is beneficial to some... IF worked right, as we can see 2KW is currently doing.

Not throwing big moves out soon, NOT landing on their head all the time.... that's what BYW SHOULD be about. Good, clean wrestling,just not in the usual setting.

Aperama
07-11-2007, 11:27 AM
I'm a professional wrestler. I've been in training for three years, wrestling for a year and a half or so - perhaps two. Watching this video makes me sick. No seriously. These guys are bumping wrong. The best way to bump on a surface with no give (like concrete) is to allow your body to go entirely limp. Like, if you're bumping onto a closed ladder? Totally limp. These guys are tense as all crap.

I'd actually like to tell these guys to go see a doctor. Look out for bone chips and such. Don't get me wrong, I've bumped on concrete before. But I know how to do it, and refuse to do it where possible. I tend to think that backyarding is bad for the business - people frown on people with training getting into this. Now, I'm sure that some of these people have had training and are doing this for whatever reason (One of the guys in red was doing perfect break falls. ON CONCRETE!) - and are good at spots, to be perfectly fair. They even did things well. But this isn't safe. See a doctor and get back to the training grounds, is what I'm saying. Ironically, really, the guys who look good and do things well, are the ones who are going to get injured long term. If nothing else, point out this much. Obviously

I realise that you're not doing *all* of your stuff on concrete - but even just a small amount.. well, it only takes one screwed bump and you can't move your arms properly again, doubly so on concrete. I'm not saying that they're all doing it wrong - but definitely some are, and it's their training in real rings that have caused as such. Even rubber gym mats for the most part will leave you better off just falling. Actually, it depends on the mats - I don't know them. If they have any AIR in them, you want to bump properly. But it depends really.

I'm less concerned with these guys making people look bad (which they are to an extent, but hey, there'll always be people like this) - I'm all the more concerned with these guys harming themselves long term.

- The man who saw a compatriot in arms commando roll down a set of stairs drunk.