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Unknown
05-25-2004, 06:08 PM
I'm back with my "Last Night's" thread once again. Raw was a pretty good show last night which did a good job in advancing feuds and furthering angles while starting new ones.

The backstage segment with Evolution and Bishoff and Evolution was done well. It’s nice to see that they don’t always run around in suits all of the time and seemed like they were all about business tonight. It was especially good to see HHH looking like the HHH of 2000. All he needs to do now is workout to get rid of that gut. I might be the only one who feels this way but I think it makes Bishoff look weak as a GM having him always kiss up to Evolution. The boss shouldn’t have to suck up to his wrestlers but rather the other way around. Just a thought.


The Edge/Flair matchup was solid. I would have rather of seen this matchup going into the PPV though. A feud with Flair would do wonders for Edge’s career. The two produced some pretty good action and Flair as always was at the top of his game. It was nice to see Benjamin come out to even up the sides as it helped further his feud with Randy Orton. On another sidenote, Edge really needs to get the Rob Zombie music back. It fits his character so much better and gets you more hyped for his matchup. It would be like RVD going back to his other music. It’s just bland as is Edge’s music and no longer suits his character like the Rob Zombie music does.



I still have mixed feelings on the Kane/Lita angle. Unless it sets up the return of Jeff Hardy or ends in Kane going crazy and destroying both Matt and Lita then I don’t see the point. It seems as if they’re trying to have Kane’s question being if Lita would sleep with him, which I hope is wrong. It would be the easy way out and would just be an uninteresting climax to the angle. All of this buildup better be for something more than what I think it is for.



The HHH/Batista/Steven Richards segment was funny. I doubted that it was HBK from the beginning but they still did a good job on the segment.



The La Resistance/Hurricane & Rosey matchup was fair. It seemed out of place because neither team had anything really going for them on Raw and the announcers didn’t even say something like they would be considered tag title contenders with a victory here. Simple things like the announcers knowing the right things to say can make a matchup seem better and more important. I was kind of disappointed not being able to see La Resistance’s finisher as I find it to be one of the best tag finishers today in the WWE. Maybe next week in Montreal, they could challenge Benoit and Edge to a tag team championship matchup. They could come up closer to the beginning of the show saying that they are the best team Raw has to offer and that they beat Rosey and Hurricane last week but weren’t even considered for a title shot. They could then challenge Benoit and Edge for the belts and Bischoff could then come out and say that there would be a special stipulation added to the match being that Edge and Benoit would not get a rematch if they lost. Kane could then cost them the match maybe having the lights turning off and then seeing Chris Benoit laid out in the middle of the ring and Edge laid out outside of the ring as they were about to win the matchup. La Resistance could then pick up Benoit and give him their finisher (to get the move over) then pin Benoit and win the tag titles. Kane could then come out from under the ring and say Benoit I control your fate. I just cost you your tag titles and at Bad Blood I will destroy you and take my World Heavyweight title. This matchup would be like in the second hour of the show but not the end of it. I’d then have Regal and Eugene in Bischoff’s office. Bischoff could say that Eugene was impressive last week and scored another win last week. He could then say that he is ready for his first handicap matchup in which he will face the new tag team champions La Resistance. He could say that Regal’s job is on the line too meaning that Regal would be reinstated if Eugene could get the win against La Resistance. Bischoff could ask Regal to stay so he could talk with him for a second. Bischoff would then tell Regal that he would reinstate Regal next week. He would then say that all he has to do is watch La Resistance destroy Eugene and make sure that Eugene doesn’t get a fluke victory then he will help La Resistance destroy Eugene and put him out of his misery. If he could do that he would have no problem reinstating him. Regal could then say he knows exactly what to do and that they are both on the same page shaking Bischoff’s hand smiling walking off. The next week La Resistance could bump into Eugene backstage and Rob Conway would say that he would make sure Eugene pays for pinning him a few weeks back. When the match takes place, it would look like Regal is going to help La Resistance but change his mind and help Eugene to win the match. He could then get on the mic and say that he wouldn’t let Bischoff sabotage Eugene’s career no longer and thanks to him stupidly making that stipulation he is now allowed to return as an active superstar. He could then say that his first match back will be at Bad Blood where he and Eugene will challenge La Resistance for the tag team titles if they accept. La Resistance would accept saying that Regal has made a big mistake and that La Resistance would make him and Eugene pay. They would then say to prepare for the tag match of your lives. Not only will this get the belts on a real tag team but it would advance Regal’s role in the Eugene storyline, would get a new feud on the Bad Blood card, and would give the tag titles a chance to be defended by and against tag teams.



The Highlight Reel segment was done very well. I liked Jericho’s exchange with Orton very much. It gave Orton a chance to establish himself better as an arrogant heel, gave the Intercontinental Title recognition, made Shelton Benjamin seem like a threat to the Intercontinental title, and made Jericho look like a true main event face. It was great when Orton tried to shut Jericho up but in turn ended up being shut up by Y2J. The exchange lead to an excellent tag team matchup in which I felt Benjamin got to shine and benefited from the most. He showed just how athletic he is and how good he is in the ring. It seems as if his powerslam-belly to belly to suplex thing is his new finisher. It seems kind of weak but it could work. It fits with his in ring style and is just as devastating looking as the chokeslam. This week he got his wrestling skills over so next week I would like to see him cut a promo on Orton to establish that part of his character. As for Jericho, I don’t think this ongoing feud with Trish is doing anything for him. Hopefully he’ll have a matchup with Tomko next week and that will be it. This feud should have been finished a while ago and continuing it isn’t helping Raw one bit. It made more sense for him to move into a feud with Batista. Hopefully he will. Maybe Batista will use a match between the two as a chance to attack Jericho and challenge him to a match at Bad Blood. His reasoning could be that he was part of the reason HHH didn’t win the Battle Royal because he eliminated Batista and that he didn’t stop there. He not only insulted Randy Orton, but also helped Shelton Benjamin score a pinfall victory over him. Batista could say that he has been sticking his nose in Evolution’s business and that you don’t mess with Evolution without going through Batista. This feud would be much more beneficial to Raw and both guys than Jericho continuing his feud with Trish.



Kane’s in ring promo nothing special but it did establish some direction for his World title feud. I would have liked to see the matchup hyped more maybe with a video package and an exchange between the two men. Maybe in the coming weeks it will. I just hope it gets more exposure and doesn’t take a backseat to the HHH/HBK feud. It should get equally as much buildup if not more. The World Title has gained too much credibility over the past few months to be pushed into the background. Hopefully that won’t happen and the match will receive much more hype along with the feud developing more to make it seem like a must see encounter.



The HBK/HHH/Bischoff backstage segment was very entertaining and I knew right away that HBK was alluding to the HIAC when he said to Bischoff if he will have the match the way he wants it. After this matchup, I think the HIAC should take a break for atleast a year in a half to two years. It doesn’t seem as special being done every year. Maybe even let SD be the next to use the match.



The Victoria/Molly matchup was solid. I was kind of disappointed when I heard her new entrance music but as long as she dances like that to it all of the time I’ll forget all of my disappointment. It looks as if it might just be a three way match between Gail, Molly, and Victoria at Bad Blood with the way things have been going.



The Eugene/Regal backstage segment was pretty entertaining. Johnny Nitro did a good job in the segment but looked and sounded a little goofy when he tried to talk. Maybe after a while he’ll become more comfortable in his role. The tag matchup was pretty good and it was nice to see Benoit the rub to help and get him over more.



The HBK/HHH segment to end the show was done pretty well and the locker room having to be cleared to separate them was a nice touch. The HIAC matchup should be the matchup to end this feud for good. They have fought every matchup possible and the HIAC match would be a nice climax to one of wrestling’s greatest feuds of all time. While I don’t like that this feud was pushed so heavily, I do like that it showed how important the feud was that much more. I hope Benoit and Kane get a buildup equal to his match, which would only be fitting.



I give Raw a 8.75/10. The show did a good job of progressing and pushing current angles while putting plans in motion for new ones. I look forward to next week’s episode as Raw has been on a roll for a while now.

The Pez
05-25-2004, 06:28 PM
Anyone else find it funny that both Chuck Palumbo and A-Train appear out of nowhere?

The Kid
05-25-2004, 06:38 PM
As said in the other thread about this, I wasn't all that impressed with Raw last night. I felt that it seemed alot shorter than it really was and the whole show was focused around Triple H and Shawn Michaels a little too much for my liking.

I like your idea for La Resistance winning the tag titles but I think that the WWE will keep the titles on Benoit and Edge and then have Edge beat Orton for the Intercontinental title. This will set up a scenario where one of the wrestlers wants to have all the gold and will turn on the other. Only problem with that scenario is it involves either Edge or Benoit turning heel and I don't think it'd be a good idea for either to.

Another excellent report Unknown. The only person who's analyisis IMO is in the same league as yours as the Almighty Molly Brown.

Unknown
05-25-2004, 07:00 PM
Thanks for the compliments the Kid. I was wondering that too Shua. Doesn't seem really logical for the WWE to of sent them to Raw where they won't get used when SD obviously needs them much more.

Orton Rko
05-25-2004, 07:18 PM
I dont like the Kane,Lita and Matt Hardy storyline. I dont think any good can come out of it and I bet Kane's question is something stupid.

D-Dogg
05-25-2004, 08:33 PM
I dont like the Kane,Lita and Matt Hardy storyline. I dont think any good can come out of it and I bet Kane's question is something stupid.

Knowing the WWE i can see it now Kane's question will be:

"Lita will you......do my laundry? All that bending down is giving me so many back problems i'm finding it hard to be a destructive monster, Thankyou so much Lita Kiss Kiss"

Now before you think i'm exagerating too much think of Katie Vick and all of a sudden this storyline becomes more and more possible :D

Unknown
05-25-2004, 09:19 PM
I ended up changing what I gave Raw. It was a 9/10 but I ended up changing it to a 8.75/10. It was great but things seemed to be missing. After I read over my post, I saw that the score needed to be modified. The La Resistance/Hurricane and Rosey matchup was good but with no kind of purpose and the announcers not even seeming to make it seem important that the winner could become contenders for the tag titles. Tag teams should be the main focus of the tag division rather than having two wrestlers carry the belts around. I hope they have somehting planned for the belts because they're going to lose their steam if they don't come up with something other than Benoit and Edge defending them every other week. Also, the little hype the world title feud received was disappointing as it should have received the same amount of hype as the HHH/HBK feud. They've gotta make Benoit's feud one of the main focuses of the show because when he goes to Vengeance it will be that much harder for him to draw if he wasn't even booked as the top attraction on the show as the Champ the month before. Raw was great but a few things here and there didn't fit.

badbilly3d
05-26-2004, 03:27 AM
I am ABSOLUTELY sick of HBK and HHH. I'm sorry, but I couldn't care less about this feud. The only good thing to come out of it IMO is that neither one of them will be champion after Bad Blood.

unpossibl1
05-26-2004, 05:45 AM
I am ABSOLUTELY sick of HBK and HHH. I'm sorry, but I couldn't care less about this feud. The only good thing to come out of it IMO is that neither one of them will be champion after Bad Blood.

I couldn't disagree more. I love the Triple H/HBK feud. Both guys can put on a great show and work together to perfection. The Hell in a Cell should be a great way to cap off a great feud. Remember, this is the feud that we never got to see 6 years ago. HBK lost the title to Austin at WM14. The next night, HHH came out on Raw and blasted HBK for dropping the ball. Everyone was waiting for HBK to come back for revenge, but it never happend because of HBK's back. Yeah, this feud has been going on for awhile now, but why shouldn't it? With the history between these guys a one PPV and done feud would cheapen the whole thing. This feud is something special, and that's why it's lasting longer than a typical one. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Moving on, has the gap in quality between Raw and SmackDown ever been biggger? Look no further than the Champion of each show. On Raw, Benoit is being respected and feared by everyone. He has beaten two legends in HBK and HHH...twice, getting clean wins each time.

On the other hand, Eddie Guerrero, who like Benoit, was a perennial upper mid carder at best, beat Brock Lesnar for the title because Goldberg took out Lesnar. From there, he beat Angle at WrestleMania, but it wasn't a decisive win. He tricked Angle and won with a rollup. After that, he has gone on to face Bradshaw, who he actually lost to via DQ. Eddie hasn't been established as a true main event star. He doesn't have the respect that Benoit does...he hasn't been allowed to dominate anyone, and it's a shame.

Furthermore, SmackDown is clearly hurting for stars (Bradshaw in the main event...need I say more?). Injuries have been a problem as well, and things will probably get worse before they get better. It's going to take a while to develop new stars, and with the Undertaker not working every show there isn't really any reason to tune into SmackDown every Thursday. I didn't watch the last one and I don't think I missed much. On the other hand, Raw is exciting...if I can't see the show I sure as hell am taping it.

Bottom line, SmackDown is the JV team, the second string, the Eastern Conference of the NBA if you will. And it's going to be that way for a while :(

Unknown
05-26-2004, 09:26 AM
Yeah I've gotta agree with you on that one. I could understand to a degree why they had him lose to Brock like that but Angle? That wasn't understandable at all. After one fluke victory, the WWE should have used that matchup to show that Guerrero was a true champion. They could have maybe even had him use the Lasso from El Paso to make Angle tap out. Then they have him basically doing everything in the world to make Bradshaw look like a main eventer. I think the problem is that the WWE wanted to find a way to make Brock and Angle save face which is stupid because if your champion can't beat a challenger it makes him look weaker. They then took the weaker looking champion and pushed him into a feud where he'd look even weaker by building up Bradshaw. IMO, that should be the role of the Undertaker. He is nearing the end of his career and he shouldn't have even switched back to the deadman gimmick seeing as it won't help the show one bit if he has to destroy half of the roster. Eddie's credibility as a champion isn't great and that's only because the WWE has him playing the role of the underdog all of the time rather than the role of a credible champion. The challenger should always be the underdog not the other way around. What does the champion have to overcome? The challenger is the one who has to overcome the odds to become champion. I just hope that the WWE doesn't give Bradshaw the belt at GAB (the ratings will be horrendus) making sure that Eddie wins the matchup cleanly and that they bring back someone like the Rock for a few months or maybe turn the Undertaker and make Eddie feud with one of them on equal footing and get a clean decisive win over one of the two. That is the only way I could see him becoming as credible of a champ as Benoit is right now.

WordLife
05-26-2004, 07:10 PM
I think that Raw deserves a 7/10. It had some great matches. I didn't fall asleep during any one of them for a change. All the matches were entertaining and fun to watch. But you all are right, they did focus it around HBK and HHH too much. Thank god this feud is finally going to come to an end.

Unknown
05-26-2004, 08:15 PM
It seems as if the WWE is building HHH and Randy Orton as the next epic feud sort of like HHH and HBK. If this is true, I could easily see Orton becoming one of the best of all time as a result of it but I wouldn't want to see it go on as long as the HBK/HHH feud.

Peoples King
05-26-2004, 08:50 PM
I cant wait to see this edition of Raw. While it is obvious that the WWE put too much attention on HBK/HHH for the show it still sounds like a great Raw overall. The Jericho/Benjamin vs Evolution match is just stellar by the sounds of it and that is because of three men in it.

Raw has become the best show by a mile and I have to feel sorry for the guys on Smackdown. They really dont have the main eventers needed to put on shows like Raw do. It takes a long tine to develop wrestlers and unfortunately that is time SD! doesnt have.

badbilly3d
05-27-2004, 03:50 AM
I couldn't disagree more. I love the Triple H/HBK feud. Both guys can put on a great show and work together to perfection. The Hell in a Cell should be a great way to cap off a great feud. Remember, this is the feud that we never got to see 6 years ago. HBK lost the title to Austin at WM14. The next night, HHH came out on Raw and blasted HBK for dropping the ball. Everyone was waiting for HBK to come back for revenge, but it never happend because of HBK's back. Yeah, this feud has been going on for awhile now, but why shouldn't it? With the history between these guys a one PPV and done feud would cheapen the whole thing. This feud is something special, and that's why it's lasting longer than a typical one. Enjoy it while it lasts.



The only problem with that logic is that this isn't six years ago.
Enjoy What? Yet another HHH/ HBK match. They've had some many matches in the last year year and a half I can't keep track any more.

This feud is lasting longer than a typical CAREER, forget a typical feud. This makes Sting/Vampiro look like the Rock/Goldberg feud.

I'm not trying to depricate what these two have done for WWE. HBK is one of my all-time faves, but as Kramer would say, "It's just too much!" I'm not even saying these guys don't deserve to have a bit of an ego trip for what they've accomplished. I'm just tired of this feud. Its like no matter what happens there's HHH and HBK butting in. Just get it over with already.

unpossibl1
05-27-2004, 04:18 AM
Well, for me personally, I was waiting every week for HBK to come back and go after Triple H 6 years ago. Michaels losing to Steve Austin was a dark day in my book, and I couldn't wait for him to return to prominence. So this feud is one I have been waiting years to see...I guess you can't get better buildup than that. Their feud just keeps getting better and better, although I think that the Hell in a Cell will be the end of it for a bit.

wwechick1982
05-27-2004, 04:55 AM
I wouldn't mind not seeing HHH and HBK on my TV screen when I tune into Raw. However, if I have to, I hope it ends at Bad Blood!! I don't know what it is about them, but I just want them to put each other out of their misery!!

~Rachel

12
05-27-2004, 07:33 AM
I'm happy tokeep the feud going as when you see Hell in a Cell Shawn Micheals vs Triple H, you have got to know they are going to do something a bit different and are going to give it they're all. I think the feud should take a break for a while after this though and maybe a Shawn heel turn would be just the thing to keep them appart

james_aust
05-29-2004, 04:57 AM
HHH VS HBK is sooooo overused.. I love HBK, he is my favourite wrestler ever.. but this is just a joke.. is this all WWE have for him? If Bad Blood isn't the end I will not be happy!

Onto another issue.. VICTORIA'S NEW ENTRANCE.. I just watched Raw that I had taped and what the hell is that? Who taught her the dances? The Backstreet Boys? This is sad.. I really would love to know who's idea it was.. must say though, Victoria put on a good show, she must have been very nervous doing that one!