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Scorch
04-19-2007, 05:25 AM
We did this in a past fed and I think it can be very helpful to everyone as long as people participate in the process. It functions as something of a more long term version of the rp feedback thread. Each week (or possibly more frequently depending on how quick people are) we would take a couple of rpers and give them overall evaluations on how they have been doing so far in WPW.

I think the worst part of this group is that we fail to really pick eachother up and improve as a whole. It seems we are all too often overly concerned with our own agendas and I think in the end we all miss out on oppurtunities to improve. I have noticed that whenever people have questions about losses, it is taken as just more complaining, why we writers cannot tell a person WHY we picked a match to go the way it did, I am not sure. By that I mean really being able to say why we chose the winner we did and not saying "his rps were better" but saying "this is why his rps were better." Getting feedback on what works and what does not can do great things for people. I honestly believe that one of the main reasons that Dan Murph has improved as much as he did, is because he constantly asks people about how he can do better outside the forums.

In the evaluations you would look at the following four categories. Please be as thorough as you can be as the more you tell other people, the more they can learn and the more they will be inclined to help you.

Character Analysis: Let the person know what you think of the character, step one would be to define the character, do not just say what is in the sign up, but what impression do you get based on how the character is portrayed.

Roleplaying Analysis: Typically this will be the most important part of the evaluation as this is where you can tell a person what you think they do well, and what they can improve. Do not be afraid to make suggestions to people on improvements they can make, you could be a Live jobber and see something you do not like in a main eventer, and you could be right. Please do not use this as a way to bury somebody though, constructive criticism, and remember to look at the writing here, not the person. If you think somebody has a strenth they can utilize more, please let them know about it.

Personal Suggestions: If you have any ideas you think would help the rper, put them here. You may not agree with anybody else's suggestions, but that is fine.

Overall Attitude: This should be fairly self explanatory, this is where you give your thoughts on the attitude of the rper. If you think somebody is too laid back, if they seem really vested in WPW, or anything else, let them know.


The promo preference survey failed, and I hope the same does not happen with this. If anybody wants to see another category added, please suggest it. Also please sign up to be evaluated as I want to start this as soon as possible. Be aware evaluations will be done in public threads. Sometimes a suggestion you make to one person, could actually benefit multiple individuals as well.

Thank you, and I hope everyone takes advantage of this.

The Judge
04-19-2007, 05:36 AM
I'm in. Personally, I feel I'm probally one of, if not the most overrated RPer in the fed, so I'd like some honest opinions on my work because I know a suggestion you made last week towards everyine in general changed my initial plans.

DjM
04-19-2007, 05:45 AM
Count me in too. I'm always in for anything that can help me improve as a rp'er.

Darth Vader
04-19-2007, 06:01 AM
I am in! Really need some improvement these days...

Ncomo
04-19-2007, 10:37 AM
I am in also

T-dog
04-19-2007, 10:42 AM
Im in as well.. I need to improve.

Peoples King
04-19-2007, 12:03 PM
Why the fuck not? Put me down for it.

Mike Adams
04-19-2007, 12:48 PM
Sure what the hell

Gravity
04-19-2007, 01:40 PM
Definetly include me. I really need to find a way to improve.

Prometheus
04-19-2007, 01:59 PM
Is this how this works, i thought we doit like 'the person above you' game. I.e Judge tells scorch, Cash tells Judge..

Gunnar Brian
04-19-2007, 02:41 PM
And I'll take part too, oh and if JMC is right I get to tell him his title will be going to someone else :P

Spaz
04-19-2007, 03:17 PM
This is a great idea. Sign me up for it.

Tank2K8
04-19-2007, 05:30 PM
Of course. Put me in.

Sky Ryder
04-19-2007, 07:01 PM
im in... god knows i need improvement...

Mike Corral
04-19-2007, 10:24 PM
Throw me in as well. Anythng to improve is alwas a good thing.

Justin Dreamer
04-19-2007, 11:38 PM
sure, i'll do it

AFalseSinn
04-19-2007, 11:41 PM
you guys can evaluate my charicter all you want, but ill tell you right now.....its fucked up.

o....you meant SiNN.

Neo
04-20-2007, 01:39 AM
Yeah, count me in as well. Anythin that helps improve characters can only be good.

Shadows
04-20-2007, 02:23 AM
I'm in too. I think I've improved a lot (for some unknown reason) but I still need a lot more improvement, considering how after about 5 months my greatest achievement is getting into the main event on TNT. (which I didn't even win ^_^' )

Paul O Mac
04-20-2007, 10:46 AM
Sounds good, sign me up.

legendaryken
04-20-2007, 03:54 PM
OK, you're all shite. Now tell me how good I am!

:)

Best of luck with this, but count me out largely. Reason: I suspect that this might partly be a way of trying to get everyone to write in a 'house style'. Some of the time I find myself disagreeing with decisions in some matches, but can see why the decision has gone the way it has i.e. the winner conformed more to the expected format.
I personally put more of a premium on originality, and that's something you can't really advise on. For instance, Nic (when he's around) is easily the best RPer imo, because he brings something entirely different to the table. You can't teach that.
My style is obviously like Marmite (sorry. Don't know what the US equivalent is) - you either love it or hate it - and that's OK. I can live with that.
Sorry if this sounds like I'm up my own arse ( I doubt if there's an American translation of that one either) but do carry on guys and remember, if I'm writing your match, then 800 word explorations of your inner psyche will not beat a good pun.

(Waits for Judge to reply 'Oh yes it will once it ends up at the editor's desk' :) )

The Judge
04-20-2007, 04:04 PM
Actually I was going to reply that the american translation for arse is ass.

Chazz
04-20-2007, 11:55 PM
I'm with Ken. Fuck all of you guys. Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Scorch
04-21-2007, 08:34 AM
Alright, we will begin the evaluations later today/tomorrow. The first crop of people to be evaluated are Dan Murph, Kaze, and Nick Comoroto.

This first batch is based on a first come first serve basis, excluding myself and Judge because I think we can be patient. After this it will be a random draw for who gets evaluated next.

Remember, if you do not participate in evaluating others you might not be put up for evaluation. To address Ken and Chazz's concerns, the focus here is improvement, not conformity. If everyone was the same the place would be boring. At the same time that is not to say that just because two people have different styles, only one needs to improve. Everyone can get better, whether you improve your style, adapt one that it more suitable to your skills or anything like that.

I am always dissappointed when writers refuse the opportunity to help out others or to be helped themselves, but as I said, this is a voluntary thing so if you do not feel you would benefit from being evaluated or others from your evaluations that is your decision, but one I would hope you two would reconsider.

Batista619
04-21-2007, 10:45 AM
I would not mind one please.

The Judge
02-06-2010, 01:01 PM
Bumping this dinosaur of a thread because we're bringing character evaluations back, so read up on the first post in the thread.

Elijah Edwards
03-17-2010, 09:35 PM
I'd like to know what I can do to improve my game